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Koolmusic wrote :

>>They are really a unique people.
>And which people is not?

The Japanese feel they are uniquely unique. For example they didn't want 
to import foreign beef in the 80's because Japanese intestines were 
longer or shorter than other peoples from official sources.


>>Afganistan is more like Somalia in my view - war lords, factions, famine,
>>destruction, hatred.
>
>Who from Somalia has flown planes into towers?
>Who from Somalia has been accused of doing so?
>Who from Somalia has been accused of aiding and abetting those who do?

I hate to let the air out of your analogy, but I don't think any Afgans 
actually hijacked the Sept 11 planes at all. The El Quaeda operation is 
primarily Saudi, Egyptian and Algerian. In fact the widow of Egypt's 
assasinted president Sadat said that the assholes who killed her husband 
are the same crew who did the Sept 11 deal. Mohaommed Ata, the lead 
bastard hijacker was Egyptian. (However, it is widely known now that Bin 
Laden spent $3 million to send his fighters into Somalia and may have 
been responsible for the 18 Army rangers who died.)

Afgan is being systemically dismantled now because they provide a base of 
operations for Bin Laden and his terrorism, extortion, and heroin 
rackets. And no one says it directly, but Bush hints at it - the Taliban 
are just complete assholes and desserve to be removed from power in the 
same way they came to power - by military force.

And of course you missed the point entirely. I never said the Somalis 
were or were not terrorists, nor that the did or did not desserve any 
attention. The discussion was about how to rebuild Afganistan later after 
the attacks end. Someone suggested treating them like Japan, and I 
compared the overall chaotic situation to be more like Somalia. 


>You have also kindly given a most apt description -- as far as I can divine 
>-- of a certain nation not too far away from where you sit right this very 
>minute where there are also people dying upon the streets from hunger and 
>from enforced homelessness and from hatred even as I write these words. It 
>is simply that the people who oversee such acts of brutality are given a 
>far more polite description.

What you are talking about? Mexico? South Central LA? Haiti? El Salvador? 
I'm at a loss as to what country you are referring to. I don't see the 
connection. Mexico is a poor country but no one is kicked out thier homes 
- except the 100 Americans who bought luxury beach front homes from a 
Mexican - only to find later that he had not purchased the lots correctly 
- and so after these Americans spent huge sums building beautiful houses 
on these lots in Rosarito, they were summarily kicked off the land they 
paid for with nothing to show for it. Or are you talking about the way 
the Euro settlers treated the native Indians in North America 150-300 
years ago? Please explain your point a little less cryptically.