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>Why are you so sure you know who are those people?!

This must be taken on faith. There can be all sorts of secret information 
available to the government that is not wise to make public. Maybe they 
have informants, maybe they have electronic surveillance, secret 
capabilitites. If they reveal those things to the public, then they will 
also be revealing those things to the terrorists. Bin Laden was already 
tipped off that the CIA was listening to his cell phone and so he stopped 
using it.

Can we trust the government 100% - in general, no. In the US, the truth 
always comes out in the end - so if its complete bullshit, Bush will be 
disgraced for the rest of history. However, this information has also 
been shared with leaders of Europe and Russia. We can't expect them to 
keep silent if there is no evidence. Tony Blair has made it very clear 
that there is an overwhellming amount of evidence.

So I think we should assume its true - but keep an eye for the complete 
and true story as it will come out in the months or years to follow. For 
example, just yesterday I heard that some of the recent terror threats 
have come from the Canadian government's surveliance. The details will 
emerge.

For now, we need to worry about how we can get out of this mess as 
quickly as possible. I just saw the news conference with the secretary of 
Defense Rumsfeld. They appear to be no big rush. However, I am concerned 
about world public opinion. Every child killed is a front page news 
headline in the Arab world - whether or not it was caused by US bombs, or 
if the Taliban parked a tank next to the kid's house and when the tank 
was boinked, the house got some shrapnel too. There was already a report 
that many of the civilian casualties in Afganistan come not from direct 
attack, but from buildings which are poorly designed and constructed 
collapsing when a bomb goes off some distance away. 

We (the US) has decided on a course of action. And now we must find a way 
to take out Bin Laden and the Taliban as quickly as possible. Then open 
the country for a broadbased democratic government, with food and 
economic aid. It may be difficult for the refugees for now. But in the 
end, the Afgan people will be more free,  healthy, safe, and prosperous 
than they were under the Taliban criminal empire

... and thats what it is. Its just like Al Capone taking over Chicago 
with guns and intmidation. The Taliban wrap themselves in the sancity of 
Islam  - but where does is say in the Koran that you finance your killing 
of innocent people around the world with heroin sales? 

The US has simply got to quit screwing around and send ground troops in 
number. Take over regions, bring food and shelter. Any Afgan who wants to 
come can come - if they surrender the AK47 and are willing to live in 
peace. Gradually expand these zones in the south and north, giving 
smaller and smaller santuary to the murderers. Set up the government. We 
don't even have to go into every cave .... just let Bin Laden and the 
various foreign Arab fighters starve to death or until they are willing 
to give up violence and live in peace with their fellow muslims.