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Thoughts from the mind of Wilson Zorn, 11-11-2001:

>In France (outside Strasbourg) I was in a warehouse with mostly men 
>where they had several pornographic pictures up and they laughed how 
>in America we couldn't do that - of course this could have just been 
>staged for my benefit!

Well, knowing you I'd say: undoubtedly so :-).

Ah, shit, what am I saying?  I don't know you at all...

:-)

>Regardless, where I saw more of that was in Germany, specifically in
>Bavaria, where at least a couple years ago women were expected to get the
>coffee and if they were admin assistants, expected to take care of a
>surprising number of personal errands.  (Interestingly in my trips there
>this year it seems that's already decreasing).  That plus jokes about women
>were much much more commonplace as was the notion that women should be
>subservient in the home, in the UK, France, and Germany where I visited.

A most curious state of affairs...  I don't know how well I know my 
own country, but I have the strong impression that things like that 
are completely out of the question here.  I don't know about the 
jokes, but the getting-coffee stuff & such most certainly isn't the 
case over here.

But then... <insert load of jokes about Germans v.s Dutch>  Etc, etc.  :-)


tata,
HJ
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