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Thoughts from the mind of Alexis Aiosa, 13-02-2002:

>I posted originally as:  "Does anyone feel like "Sucker" is their middle
>name"
>
>He in turn posted:  "Does anyone feel like "whiner" is their middle name"
>
>Now who opened that can of worms...hmmm.  So, one good turn deserves
>another.  I felt like roasting him over an open flame.

[gonna try to keep this posting shortish]
OK, that's your response to being provoked, and a choice that's 
entirely up to you.  Personally I'm not too fond of the "eye for an 
eye" idea...

>  >Seriously, no-one can judge the (un)reasonableness (is that a word?)
>>of the $400 pricing without knowing the 3-to-4 upgrade price -- which
>>I haven't seen mentioned in this entire thread.
>
>That was automatically assumed by me that most of you knew the what was
>going on.  That was my fault for not being clear on that.
[...explanation deleted...]
>And again the idea of charging full value on delineated technology on a skip
>upgrade is unethical.

Right, you make some valid points here.  Indeed, since v4 is now 
becoming "obsolete technology", it's not quite reasonable that when 
upgrading from v3 to v5 you have to pay the full v4 update costs plus 
the v5 costs.  I hadn't looked at it that way before, but you indeed 
have a point here.

>  >"I've come to know you as a reasonable and knowledgeable guy, so I
>>don't really understand what you're trying to do now?  "
>
>That was entirely different issue

I know it was.  It just caught my attention that within a few days 
you posted a couple of rather, uhm..., angry letters...  So I started 
wondering if everything was alright over there :-).

BTW, I too do have a somewhat 'itchy' feeling regarding this whole 
upgrade story.  I have ordered the upgrade and will continue to use 
Logic, since I love the program, in principle.  But e.g. the fact 
that essential bugs that have been around for quite some time are 
simply still there, gives me a rather (or: very) uncomfortable 
feeling.  Then there's the issue of not knowing whether there's gonna 
be a stable 4.x version to which you can revert if v5 proves to be 
unstable (I've had quite a few 4.x versions that _really_ were 
crash-country, and thank the gods that 4.8.1 behaves so well).  Then 
there's the stupid business of sending in your dongle & CD and thus 
having to buy a postal insurance for some $1500.  And the issue of 
not being able to transfer your property-rights to some Emgic 
software to someone else (not that I'd want to, but it's a matter of 
principle).  Etc.  Quite a bit too many "uncomfortable" issues to be 
entirely comfortable about the upgrade.  And then realise that I've 
been so 'silly' to order the gold-platinum upgrade as well -- which 
will set me back some $400...  I just pray that all will go well, and 
if not, then expect to see some angry letters from me in the LUG too 
:-).

My main hope for the direct future is this: now that v5 is out and 
all new features Emagic wanted to implement have been implemented, 
let them PLEASE concentrate on bug-fixes and stability issues for the 
next couple of subreleases.  I don't need a VST system-link, or other 
crap, I don't need a zillion new features -- I just want the program 
to act decently, run for days without crashing, and be as bug-free as 
possible.  One can always hope, right...?


cheers,
HJ
-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html