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dg,

>Add
>"Ruins" (or any other band with Yoshida Tatsuya)
>Otomo Yoshihide
>Haino Keiji
>Melt Bannana
>Hoppy Kamiyama
>Altered States
>Endo Michiro
>Fomoflo (I play in that one)
>Zeni Geba
>DemiSemiQuaver
thanks for that!

>And a score of others, BUT Joeri asked about "well selling"
right; i was just responding to someone's query, which went thusly:

>  >>Isn't there anything a bit more "serious" out there?

 
>and those 
>people are all highly eclectic acts that have larger followings 
>outside Japan than within and even in the places where they are most 
>popular their fan basses are small groups of hard core fans.
right.
 
>BTW the 
>Japan noise movement (of which I was once considered a part) is no 
>more an Osaka phenomenon than it is a Tokyo one.
ah!, okay.
it's been about two years since i was there.....

>Like I said in my original post there are plenty of brilliant highly 
>creative Japanese acts but they are totally ignored by the mainstream 
>machine although most of them have members that actually eek out 
>their livings in the japan studio world.
gee, that sounds familiar.....
kinda like the rest of the world, eh?

>Joari asked why so many people hate the Majors and I was simply 
>explaining what it is I hate about them.  He said there is a reason 
>why the majors are major and I agree with that too.  Here the reason 
>is that they are totally free to manipulate the market and flood it 
>with crap while letting the real thing starve. 
..... still sounds familiar.
and:
no-one has mentioned the sickening (and seemingly incessant) proliferation of 
execs/A&R folk at the majors who:
a) unlike the artists they represent, have regular income, expense accts. & 
guaranteed medical-insurance plans, and
b) often act as if *they* are -in deed- the raison d'etre for the 'music 
industry', and the centerpieces, therein.

and: whilst i rail, here:
many of the 'minors' (ie, 'independents') with whom i have regular contact 
---while showily espousing a quasi-alternative to the 'majors'--- seem to be 
merely 'ladies-in-waiting': wanna-be's: also-ran's: etc.....
 
>There is one 
>interesting side effect though.  Interesting artists here know they 
>do not have a snowball's chance of getting a deal with the majors so 
>they never feel even slightly tempted to compromise 
still sounds somewhat familiar.....

>and the result of 
>that is often totally full on abstract inaccessible insanity that is 
>a wonder to behold.
excellent.
best,
dt / splattercell