The Logic Off Topic list

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From: "Joeri Vankeirsbilck" <joeri@...>
To: <logic-ot@egroups.com>
> > Of them all, this LUG is by far the most
> > intolerant and has by far the most unacceptable noise to signal ratio.
>
> It's also the biggest list, I think. 4400+ members is a lot.
It does not matter how many the members, intolerance is intolerance.

> Not correct: we have lots of new subscribers and therefore some threads
are
> often restarted by newbies
So ... they need somewhere to go to get immediate answers.

The problem is also that ignorant people often think that they are being
very clever indeed when all they are doing is rehashing arguments that
others have heard many times before. As with the making of music itself, it
is actually very difficult to be original; but only those who actually make
the effort to write songs see how hard it can actually be. Once people have
somewhere to go to have these ridiculous kinds of questions answered they
will learn two things: (a) that people on the List have heard it all before;
and (b) that they are not quite so clever as they think they are.

When they come back to the group from having read what is there in all of
that, they will immediately know, before they ask another question, that
they might well be about to ask ANOTHER question that has been heard many
times before. There is little more irritating than a questioner who thinks
he is being very clever when rehashing an old issue -- except perhaps an
answerer who thinks he is being even more clever when giving a really rather
stupid response.

In my humble opinion most people on the LUG are actually quite patient and
caring people. It is just that some things come up so often and time and
time again that people have a kind of a right to be impatient and intolerant
of it -- which sets a precedent in that establishes an overall culture in
which impatience and intolerance over many other issues is also tolerated
when it absolutely should not be. It is very difficult to put a stop to the
latter kinds of impatiences when people feel -- rightly-- justified about
the former kind.

> I intended to make such a page after the recent threads. Seems like the
only
> possibility. It'll be online by tonight.
Hooray hooray hooray hooray. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Even without having seen it -- thank you.

It is a HUGE step in the right direction.

Please be sure to email Mr. Beyer and tell him when it is up.