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Re: [L-OT] Re: Nice Future!

2002-07-26 by Paul Nicholls

People, this makes me feel ill.

I am amazed that there is not any great reticence in these matters of
computer platform. I am now the proud owner of both a PC and a Mac. On the
PC side I am truly grateful to my technician to solve problems at a software
level in Win 2000 that I would go crazy dealing with myself and never have
problems with on my Mac G4 upgraded beige desktop (now very aged). For this
reason the cost of ownership of the PC is much higher for me than with the
Mac and this is a typical situation in all creative areas that use
computers. I do not believe I should be expected to know _that_ much about a
computer in order to run it properly as seems to be expected in the PC
world. While people do become experts in troubleshooting these machines (I
am certain I am speaking to these experts on this list) there is ample
evidence that it the time spent fixing the problems eats into creative and
technical productivity. I feel there is nothing wrong with a person choosing
to use a PC but to pretend that the advantages of a Mac in terms of
productivity do not exists is to ignore the results of many technical
studies in this area. Do the results of these studies still apply to Win XP?
I don't know. As I said I have dealt with this type of problem by hiring
someone to deal with things when they go wrong and I have indeed needed
these services for the PC where I do not need them on my Mac.

My PC is definitely more powerful than my Mac, partly just because it is
more recent, and I am dedicating it to GigaStudio and Tassman although I can
not run both together at the same time and share the sound card, something I
could do in OS X. I put high quality silent Zaltman components into it so I
do not find it any cheaper than a PowerMac and indeed most of the music DAWs
based on PCs for music are no cheaper than Macs and some are very costly
indeed. The silent feature is also not something I can get on my Mac so it
goes both ways. 

I think it is really tiresome to have people who have lots of knowledge of
one platform to start lecturing people who use the other one. As a Mac user
I am certain that the future of OS X is very bright and that it will offer
significant advantages to its users. I also think that the hardware on the
PC side will also offer many advantages to music users at a lower cost and
that the cost always will be lower. It is also quite crass and ignorant of
PC users to assume that Apple will not be able to deal with any situation in
which the speed of the computing platform will fall behind what is available
in the PC. Assuming stupidity of the Mac community and the people who run
Apple is annoying and arrogant. In fact the situation it is just the
opposite. Jobs has insisted that OS X be entirely independent of the
processor. He anticipated the current situation and has prepared for it. All
the indications and rumors are that OS X is going to migrate to a new 64 bit
processor either form IBM or AMD. This will be easy to implement as soon as
OS 9 has bit the dust. I suspect that Jobs would like to do it sooner rather
than later because he is very keen to kill OS 9 for a variety of reasons and
such a migration would be the perfect way of putting the nails in the
coffin.

I also see a big problem in my writing this post. When we really come down
to it I know sweet-f*ch-all about this field. I am a musician and composer
and I am simply trying to stick-handle (a Canadian term) my way through this
morass of confusion that is the world of personal computers and DAWs.
Maintaining good judgement is really hard in these circumstances. We need to
be passing on information and advice and showing a proper understanding of
the relative merits of these differing styles of computing. The contempt
shown to each there is really unproductive since many of us are likely to
want to use both anyway.

Regards

 
-- Paul Nicholls
New Traditions Media
#421-6450 East Boulevard
Vancouver BC
V6M 3V9
604 269-9202
paulnicholls@...



> From: Garth Hemphill <ghemphill@...>
> Reply-To: logic-ot@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:08:02 -0700
> To: logic-ot@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [L-OT] Re: Nice Future!
> 
> on 7/26/02 7:31 AM, Doesn't matter who wrote:
> 
>>> Before making this kind of statement, please do some research as to the c
>>> urrent situation.
>> 
>> After spouting the usual Mac propaganda/bubble-boy belief system I hardly
>> think_you_are in a position to patronise me. You must just screen out
>> everything that doesn't gel with your "Mac is best" belief system.
>> Please go down to the store (no  --  not the Mac store this time) and do a
>> bit of research before you make a fool of yourself on an online forum by
>> suggesting there isn't a price difference.
> 
> Just what I was afraid of starting.
> 
> Folks, it just doesn't matter.  Everyone has their opinion, and each to his
> own I say.
> 
> Sometimes I think Computer Missionaries are more zealous than their
> religious counterparts!
> 
> You all have some good points, and nobody will sway anyone else, so why
> bother.
> 
> It's up to you of course, I wouldn't want to censor anyone, but isn't making
> music more fun than slamming each other's opinions?
> 
> Ah well, Fire away!
> 
> Garth
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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