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> Alex wrote: <----No it is Alexis, not Alex.
>>> 1. I don't want all my eggs in one basket -- especially one under the
>>> control of Apple.
>>
>> Control...LOL..Pahleessse!!!
>>
>> No, my friend...
>>
>> The early bird may get the worm...But the second mouse got the cheese.
>

murr wrote:

> But that was only because the cat was away!

No, the cat was there, SUNNing, himself when the dilemma that 
transpired.

> And modern medications can eliminate bird worms.

The bird that hunts worms...not the bird that gets worms...LOL.

> Please research your anthropomorphisms more thoroughly in future.

Please research more throughly...LOL...You should think before 
attempting this rather benign insult.  The meaning is, the Early bird 
gets the worm.  Bird wakes up early, sees worm and swoops down to eat 
it.  Unless it is Charlie Byrd, then of course, he was to stoned to 
care.

However, the way I put it does make sense...if you "think different" 
about it...LOL.

So, "The Early bird MAY get the worm".  But, in this case, you were the 
first mouse, ya went for the cheese, SNAP, the trap went down on your 
head, now your squirming about...Now the second mouse walks by and gets 
the cheese.  I am sorry this happened to you and others...I know it is 
a bummer and I can relate.  I have been an avid mac user since the 
'80's.  Try being a Mac user for 18 years.  If anything, you will find 
more allies in the Mac world that can relate to this.  And yes, I do 
use PC's.  So I am well aware of the PC market.

Yet Apple did make some of their software as a port to Windows.  But, 
no one gave a crap.  No one cared for the attempts that Apple has made 
in the past at creating Windows product.  Do you remember Claris?  
Eventually, Apple let them go as a separate entity.  [Okay Claris, time 
to swim on your own.]  And though quicktime is supported for windows, 
still a lot of Windows users use Windows media player.  Kind of hard to 
compete with a behemoth like MS.  Especially when everything you do, is 
counter acted by MS in other ways.

> Emagic claims Apple forced them to discontinue Windows development.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...And Dan Quail is member of MENSA.   LOL.

Look, Apple's "control" over Emagic is way more lenient than one 
thinks.  Think just with objectivity and NOT with your subjective 
emotions with regards to your personal dilemma of losing Logic to the 
Mac. It could have been far worse when one considers these type of 
business deals.  As far as I am concerned, Emagic should be really 
pleased and grateful that Apple has kept the company relatively in 
tact.  Most other companies would have sliced through Emagic with a 
chain saw.  Brutally, taking the company apart piece by piece till 
there was nothing left..  Basically, like a bunch of Huns raping and 
pillaging a small village.  Which, btw, MS has done in the past with 
most of their acquisitions.  But Apple's acquisition of Emagic was 
probably far more lenient, than other offers that came down the pipe.  
That's why Apple got the cheese.

If this hadn't happened.  Right about now...Mike and Marcus would 
probably both be working at Steinberg, NI or maybe they'd join the 
forces of the Propellerheads team.  Or they both would just be looking 
for jobs in a limp economy.  Most of the talent at Emagic would all be 
spread out thinly, among other companies or looking for jobs, and yet 
all their past developments would be held, by copyright LAWS, as 
concepts that they could not use in other software developments.  Try 
imagining that...All their creations sucked up into oblivion and no 
longer available to them, cause they are prohibited to use them.  The 
Chuck Berry's of the software industries.  And Dr. G. Lengling would go 
back to being a professor at the local University, and chase college 
skirts around.  Yet, be eating top ramen for lunch everyday.

No, MS is by FAR more "controlling" than any other company you can 
think of related to this industry.  Look into it...you will find a 
history of very "Controlling" and "Deliberate" tactics to phase out 
competition.  Not to mention other tactful practices.  If you think 
Apple's marketing of "switching" is bad...huh, look at MS marketing.  
In fact MS's marketing is better, especially when one compares MS's 
rather large list of shortcomings.  No, MS has the market and has 
positioned themselves so well, that 90% of the world uses Windows.  
90%!  Now that's marketing...LOL.

Yet, PC users don't really choose their OS, just LIKE Mac users don't 
choose theirs.  Think about it... Both you and I, a PC and a Mac user, 
we both can choose to install Linux right now.  But both of us will 
just be twiddling our thumbs, till the cows come home.  Yet, the cows 
will come home sooner...LOL.  If anyones is to blame for no Linux 
software, it would have to be MS marketing,  business deals and 
tactics.  When have you ever gone to Fry's [or where ever one goes] and 
seen Linux running on a PC?  When? Yeah, you can purchase Linux, in a 
box, tucked away in corner.  But you won't see it running on any of the 
machines.  Or you may find Linux running on some machines in small PC 
shop, which basically runs its ship below the radars of MS.  No, you 
can't blame Apple, cause Apple at least Embraced the Penguin.  Apple 
didn't Fear the Penguin, MS did.  If anything, MS assassins secretly 
attempted to kill the Penguin.  But luckily just strafed his fin, 
because Apple security was on alert and secured the penguin from the 
flying bullet.  [Now, why would anybody try to be so cruel as to kill 
that cute little Penguin...cute little penguin flopping its fins 
around...hurting nobody, just trying to help with open fins.  I just 
wanna hug it...and hug the penguin, I did.]  Yet also, to think one 
would want to block out the SUNN...really.  I guess you one doesn't 
respect the shinning rays of the SUNN when one lives in Seattle.  LOL.

Yet a company you could be pissed at is Gibson.  Because they've been 
just squatting on top of Opcode and won't sell the company or its 
technology.  Apple made an offer...and Gibson just didn't want to let 
it go.  Why?  It's absurd.  Gibson does nothing with the company, and 
the concept is now literally dead technology.  That right there forced 
a lot of SVpro users to switch software.  [See, the Mac users knows 
this game...especially if they were an SVpro user of lore.]  Yet, if 
Apple were successful at buying Opcode.  Then today, the "Final Cut 
Pro" of music making would be SVPro.  [Which means, I might have 
switched to SVpro...yet another possible reason why Emagic should be 
grateful...imagine losing a slew of Mac Users to SVPro, if Apple made 
that into a viable product].  But then, WHO would have bought Emagic, 
during this recent dilemma, if Apple successfully pulled SVpro out of 
the trenches?  So, quite possibly, we would ALL just be sitting on 
nothing but a bunch of boxes filled with dead software and hardware, 
from a company the went "Kaplewy".  No Apple is doing good by 
Emagic...Probably better than than we anticipated, despite this Windows 
overture.  And if things don't pan out for you in the Cubase world or 
where ever you end up.  At least you still have choice to go back to 
old faithful, by way of getting a Mac.  Yet, I thought point of buying 
logic was because it was best.  And since our music is more important.  
Than we make sacrifice for the music.  So, using this old LUG rhetoric, 
it shouldn't matter what we use...right?  Or is this just a bunch of 
baloney that people make up to keep the peace.  Yet, it is funny how 
Steinberg is being viewed as some sort of savior for PC/Logic 
users...when clearly most PC/Logic users have been purposely avoiding 
Cubase for years.  Doh!!!  Barrrrrt!

As far VST is concerned...it is not completely out of the realm of 
possibility that VST could be replaced by something else.  Really.  
Some jacked up Cyber Freak could feasibly come out with some Steroid 
pumped code that takes VST out of the running.  In a snap of the 
fingers, we would all be using it.  Despite AU or VST, Mac or PC...we 
would all be using it.  Because adapting is part of the process of 
staying alive.

Peace, and really...good luck with all that.
Alexis