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>>> I have long since, never trusted Norton...But that is old story from
>>> the days of lore.
>>>
>>> Peace,
>>> Alexis
>>
> dubno wrote:
>>
>> I have used Norton Utilities for about 6 years, and have found it to
>> be an
>> invaluable resource.  While I can't speak for OS X, I would never even
>> think
>> of running an OS 9 or lower mac without it!

I can speak, since there are a lot of people who were running this 
stuff.  I told them hey, "Instead of bitching about how fucked up OSX 
Jag is, take a look at what you are running, cause I am fine!"  I 
proceeded to tell some people to list what they were running...sure 
enough most were running Norton.  Just because it says on the BOX, made 
for OSX 10.2, does not mean it is reliable.  That goes for any system.  
Now, many years ago, Norton team had to learn an invaluable 
lesson...but I am guessing now, they have learn new ones.  Because 
people are blaming Jag, when they should be blaming all the third party 
crap they run.  Would you like me to tell you a lovely story about 
Norton?

DaveEager wrote:
> I've run OS9 without it for some time. There is not much need for any
> of it's components anymore, except disk doctor, and other utilities
> perform better in that department anyway. [disk first aid as a first
> option, and DiskWarrior if you really need some heavy-duty fixing]

As Dave here points out, I have been running without any software like 
this since MacOS 8.1.  Really, I actually stopped using Norton around 
OS 7.1.  But I stopped relying on utilities like this, I fully stopped 
around 8.1.

Now, I provided for those of you with information from a person who 
wrote actually wrote the Mac Bible...Read the information.  If you 
wanna hose your drive...then by all means, go for it.  But Norton is 
causing issues...not 10.2.

The idea of the community service announcement is to help you.  The 
opinion I left was to confirm my beliefs, yet again.  Sometimes these 
utilities cause more problems, then alleviate them.

 > This may not be your typical tip, but it may be very very useful to a
 > number of OS X users.
 >
 > A number of folks on OS X lists that I am on have traced the cause of
 > their (atypical for OS X) many kernel panics and freezes under OS X to
 > the installation of Norton or Norton System Works. The problems went
 > away when the Norton product was uninstalled.
 >
 > I've also now heard from three different people who say that running
 > Norton Disk Doctor under OS X hosed their disk. And a couple of
 >others have told me that they had similar trouble from running Norton
 >Anti-Virus.

 > So, at this point my recommendation is to uninstall any version of
 > Norton if you are having problems under OS X to see if that helps, and
 > to stay away from Norton if you are looking for a disk utility. 
Consider
 > Disk Warrior instead.
 >
 >
 > Randy B. Singer
 > Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions)

Peace,
Alexis