The Logic Off Topic list

Zeek writes: 
> Well "moderators," I sure don't know how you're going to decide 
> what's "related to music" and what isn't. As far as I'm 
> concerned, everything in life is "related to music." Or, "Music 
> is life, the rest is details." However, in regards to what 
> started this "debate," Waves plugs are made in Israel, at one 
> point on another list, a boycott was suggested, not in support 
> of Palestinians, but in protest of the Israeli government's 
> recent actions against other human beings. I thought about it, 
> and decided to postpone my purchase of the Waves Bundle. 

IMO this was on topic, since you're talking about Waves. 

> We just had the American Congress give our "President" 
> unprecedented power to make a preemptive strike on another 
> sovereign nation, while our economy is in shambles, partly 
> because people are more concerned with an impending "war" 
> than creating work, or creating anything, for that matter. 
> Then, we find out that another country, North Korea, has had 
> nukes in the oven for some time and our "President" knew that 
> a full 2 weeks before Congress voted to give him his requested, 
> unprecedented "power." A secret his administration kept until 
> after the vote, events certainly worthy of at least a 3 chord 
> Folk Song, recorded in Logic Audio Platinum.

IMO this does not have anything to do with music.. I know you 
disagree, but why? I just don't see how this has anything to do with 
music. Sure, it might inspire you to write some a new song or 
something, but how does discussing this with everyone relate to 
music? 

Obliviän writes
> But don't you think this list will stay related to music 
> naturally? There are so few threads in this user group that 
> isn't related to music or Logic anyway. Before the last 
> political thread (Palestine vs Israel), how long ago wasn't 
> the previous one? For what I can recall it was way back in 
> September 2001. Let's stop this arguing wether this list 
> should be moderated or not. The lists history shows that it 
> doesn't need to be. I think it is a significant point that 
> when we received complaints about our political thread we 
> stopped. We really did. I think that shows that the users of 
> this list are indeed very capable of moderating themselves. 
> Uninterresting threads die out naturally anyway.

Well first, we wouldn't be "moderating" the L-OT list like the LUG is 
moderated. People could still writes messages and they would be sent 
out to everyone without having to be approved by a moderator. We 
could just keep an eye on the list and step in if things got out of 
hand again. Moderating the entire list would be a last resort only 
used when things get "nasty", *if* that happens again. 

Second, unfortunately the political thread was only stopped because 
the list became moderated. There were many replies sent after it 
became moderated, and those replies would have generated even further 
replies if they had been posted to everyone. I'm sure the thread 
would have died out eventually, but if it only dies out after dozens 
of people unsubscribe in disgust, I really don't think that's a good 
solution. 

As you pointed out, way off topic threads like this don't come up 
very often at all, so I doubt we would have to stop in very often at 
all, since the majority of the time list members do "behave 
themselves" just fine. 

Cheers
Jeremy