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Re: [L-OT] Waves or UAD-1

2003-05-30 by Dennis Gunn

>Hi all,
>I'm thinking of getting one of those two but I can't decide. I need to
>hear some opinions as far as the two. Being a student, I found a
>really great academic price at www.computersandmusic.com for Waves
>Native Gold. $600 for that, puts it at the same price as the UAD card.
>What I wuld use waves for is the C1, C4, L1, Q10, Ren Comp and Ren Eq.
>Not a big Reverb or Delay user, so Logic's plugs do that job for me.
>But on the UAD, you have the LA-2A, 1176, Pultec, and Cambridge. I'm
>having a hard time deciding. Any thoughts?
>
>Anothere concern is my desire to move to OSX, but I'm not going
>anywhere until PSP MixPack and Vintage warmer are there with me, along
>with Phatmatik Pro, Stylus and Sampletank. Waves is OSX VST, but UAD
>is OS9 only, but both have promised AU in the near future.
>
>I find that I usually hit the processor speed brickwall and have to
>start freezing/bouncing (when will emagic implement a bus freeze? that
>would be nice) about halfway thru mixing with the PSP and Logic plugs,
>so waves I know would really bring my system to its knees whereas the
>UAD would help, but I can upgrade my QS733 to a dual 1.33Ghz if budget
>permits.
>
>Which way would you guys go?


UAD 1.

Hands down.

Why?

Both quality and price performance.

Starting with just price/performance with UAD 1 you get the plugs 
*and* the power to run them and leave your CPU free to run other 
plugs at the same time.  With Waves all you get are some CPU hungry 
plugs that may tax your CPU to the limit.

Then there is the quality issue.  Woves compressors are nice but the 
UAD smokes them in the opinion of just about everyone who has ever 
put them side by side.  Then there is the reverb.  In the past like 
you I was not a big reverb fan, in fact I hated reverb.  The reason, 
I discovered recently, was not that I did not like reverb but that I 
did not like shitty reverb and, with the exeption of altiverb which 
is great but which smokes your CPU, native reverb is, I am sorry to 
say, shit.  RealVerb which is what you get with the UAD 1 utterly 
smokes any native reverb and will probably change your attitude 
completely about using reverb in the mix.

I must say that waves has some very good points too.  Like an 
excellent very GUIs on the C1 and C4 they are very flexible and 
informative.

Also what really has a lot of people pissed of at UA right now is 
their sssslloooooooooooowwwwwwwwww motion when it comes to making an 
audio units version of their product.  Inexcusable IMO.

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