Hey dont forget three of my personal favourite guitarists- as well as Page, Schenker (criminally undererrated, I agree, Strangers in the night had a big affect on my playing- at one time I knew nearly every lick!), and Garry Moore, what about Hendrix, Brian May, and possibly the greatest living rock guitarist today:- Eric Johnson Cheers John Groovey Band website mail to : chickenjohn@... http://www.grooveyband.co.uk/ East Kent Morris Minor Club web site or ; john@... http://www.ekmm.co.uk Shake The Snake web site (other band) or ; john@... http://www.shakethesnake.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Angus <phil.angus@...> To: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com> Sent: 22 June 2001 23:48 Subject: RE: [L-OT] arps automation/ guitar bends > Sascha Franke said: > > > This might result in wrong tunings (worst) or some > > unpleasant vibratos. Unfortunately even truly great players often have a > > bending technique that makes listening to them some kind of a pain. IMO > > Steve Morse is one of them. He's a kickass player by technical means but > his > > bends almost allways just have that kinda too fast, whiny and clumsy > > sounding vibrato on them (ah yeah, flame me for that :-) > > I kind of agree with this. The opposite would be Gary Moore who has that'I > am going to bend the string 3 tones and hit that note even if it rips my > finger off' approach. > > Of course one of the all time greats for multi string bending is Gerry > Donaghue. > > Jimmy Page often bent flat (especially live), but his style allowed it and > it became part of his trademark. > > Just to keep some racial balance, another of my all time favourites for real > accurate and fluent playing is Michael Schenker. His solo on the live > version of RockBottom (Strangers In The Night) is still one of the all time > greats for me. > > Of course we could talk all weekend about great guitar players (I could > anyway). There's John McCloughlin (who can forget that performance at > Seville in early nineties). > > The question about guitar string bend compared to pitch wheel raised seemed > daft to me, then I realized maybe it's not that straight forward to > understand to a non guitarist. When you bend a string you are adding all > sorts of imperfections to the note and harmonics along with fret noise and > pickup characteristics as the string passes between poles. When you pitch > bend on a keyboard you are bending the note with harmonics and noise all in > unison at the same rate. Quite recently I wanted to create a sort of false > string bend by holding a note and using SoundForge to create the bend. The > note died much quicker than it would have had I bent it naturally. I > wouldn't say I am exactly one of the Worlds great guitarists, but string > bending is probably one of my stronger points and if I don't make the note > properly or fret noise takes over prematurely I always go for a retake as I > think it can sound really frustrating, unless it becomes a feature. > > I wish you hadn't started me off about guitars and guitarists! > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [L-OT] arps automation/ guitar bends
2001-06-23 by John Matthews
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