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Re: [L-OT] arps automation/ guitar bends

2001-06-23 by John Matthews

Hey dont forget three of my personal favourite guitarists- as well as Page,
Schenker (criminally undererrated, I agree, Strangers in the night had a big
affect on my playing- at one time I knew nearly every lick!), and Garry
Moore,  what about Hendrix, Brian May, and possibly the greatest living rock
guitarist today:-

Eric Johnson

Cheers

John

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----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Angus <phil.angus@...>
To: <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 22 June 2001 23:48
Subject: RE: [L-OT] arps automation/ guitar bends


> Sascha Franke said:
>
> > This might result in wrong tunings (worst) or some
> > unpleasant vibratos. Unfortunately even truly great players often have a
> > bending technique that makes listening to them some kind of a pain. IMO
> > Steve Morse is one of them. He's a kickass player by technical means but
> his
> > bends almost allways just have that kinda too fast, whiny and clumsy
> > sounding vibrato on them (ah yeah, flame me for that :-)
>
> I kind of agree with this. The opposite would be Gary Moore who has that'I
> am going to bend the string 3 tones and hit that note even if it rips my
> finger off' approach.
>
> Of course one of the all time greats for multi string bending is Gerry
> Donaghue.
>
> Jimmy Page often bent flat (especially live), but his style allowed it and
> it became part of his trademark.
>
> Just to keep some racial balance, another of my all time favourites for
real
> accurate and fluent playing is Michael Schenker. His solo on the live
> version of RockBottom (Strangers In The Night) is still one of the all
time
> greats for me.
>
> Of course we could talk all weekend about great guitar players (I could
> anyway). There's John McCloughlin (who can forget that performance at
> Seville in early nineties).
>
> The question about guitar string bend compared to pitch wheel raised
seemed
> daft to me, then I realized maybe it's not that straight forward to
> understand to a non guitarist. When you bend a string you are adding all
> sorts of imperfections to the note and harmonics along with fret noise and
> pickup characteristics as the string passes between poles. When you pitch
> bend on a keyboard you are bending the note with harmonics and noise all
in
> unison at the same rate. Quite recently I wanted to create a sort of false
> string bend by holding a note and using SoundForge to create the bend. The
> note died much quicker than it would have had I bent it naturally. I
> wouldn't say I am exactly one of the Worlds great guitarists, but string
> bending is probably one of my stronger points and if I don't make the note
> properly or fret noise takes over prematurely I always go for a retake as
I
> think it can sound really frustrating, unless it becomes a feature.
>
> I wish you hadn't started me off about guitars and guitarists!
>
>
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