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A Desire To Learn

A Desire To Learn

2001-09-25 by Kool Musick

Hi

It is unbelievably depressing to wake up for another day and find that my 
Inbox is still getting very hot with blistering emails coming into it and 
that certain debates are still raging.



The poster who originally set off these various threads was not in the 
least interested in learning anything.
By his own admission, he posted simply and in order to be confrontational. 
Clearly, that purpose has been amply achieved.

By his own admission, the poster also posted because he was 'annoyed' with 
the policies that he saw being currently enacted in certain areas of the 
world. The poster did not post asking what constructive he could do to get 
such policies altered ... but simply in order to register his displeasure 
with them. And since he had nowhere else to go to register that kind of 
displeasure, he chose to lash out at people on this list under the pretext 
that they should have a better ability to influence their own governmental 
figures. No question was posed in that email ... just some hurt and anger 
being expressed.

Even though no question was posed, I try to be a helpful fellow when I can 
and so therefore I have a suggestion. If that person is so concerned then 
they have do avenues available to them. That person is a member of a nation 
whose leader is democratically elected. Seems to me, therefore, that that 
person has as much chance of influencing current policies as any other 
person on this list. The method is to write and/or call the nearest elected 
representative and loudly voice the objections. If that person can gather 
up enough people in his own country who feel the same way, then ultimately 
the leader of that nation will have no choice but to contact those 
responsible for instituting and executing the policies that so distress him 
and give voice to those strong objections. The leader of that nation most 
certainly has the telephone number of those who are instituting the 
policies to which he so strongly objects. That is my suggestion. I have 
said it to be constructive.

That avenue is also pretty much the only one available to any one of us, 
and each of us has exactly the same chance of getting it to succeed as any 
other on this list. Each of us simply contacts our government. So ... if 
anyone wants a constructive method to get things changed, that is my 
sincere suggestion.

But ... this is a list to learn from. If anyone has a better method perhaps 
they could send in their own suggestion. And ... perhaps they could do that 
rather than continuing with the current rancorous debate which is not 
getting anybody anywhere but is instead producing an awful lot of 
unnecessarily hurt feelings regarding things which happened a generation or 
more ago and which none of us alive today, and who are the descendants of 
those who undertook those actions, can possibly do anything about. The only 
thing any of us can do is take care how we treat each other ... which is 
kind of what I am struggling to do right at this very moment.

Thank you.




Yesterday when I posted restricted myself to one thing. It obviously did 
not work. So today I expand my little list to two.

(A)
I AGAIN wish everybody on this list a peaceful and a pleasant day;
and I AGAIN wish everybody on this list a peaceful and a pleasant life.

(B)
There was a short thread a while ago on SP/DIF and AES/EBU. I know what 
SP/DIF means: Sony-Philips Digital Interface Format. However, I do not have 
a clue what AES/EBU means. I suspect that it means American Engineering 
Society/European Broadcasting Union, but I am not entirely certain.

I have asked that question because I genuinely do not know and because I 
genuinely want to learn something. I don't know about anybody else but I 
joined this list to be amongst a group of people who genuinely knew things 
that they genuinely wanted to share; whilst at the same time getting the 
opportunity to learn whatever it is that other people might know that they 
were in their turn willing to share.

I look forward to receiving the answer to my humble question.

Other than that I genuinely and sincerely wish to everybody a Very Nice and 
a Very Happy Day, and a Very Nice and a Very Happy Life. I am still naive 
enough to believe that such things are possible, and thank you all very 
much but I would rather conduct my life in the spirit of that great naivete.


Thank you all.

Kool Musick
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Re: A Desire To Learn. About AES/EBU

2001-09-25 by yoonchi@chello.nl

--- In logic-ot@y..., Kool Musick <koolmusick@y...> wrote:
> (B)
> There was a short thread a while ago on SP/DIF and AES/EBU. I know 
what 
> SP/DIF means: Sony-Philips Digital Interface Format. However, I do 
not have 
> a clue what AES/EBU means. I suspect that it means American 
Engineering 
> Society/European Broadcasting Union, but I am not entirely certain.

For more you can read on www.aes.org. The terms you 'decode' above are 
correclty 'decoded'. It's just a society for standards for audio. Some 
things of some EBU standards I don't understand too well either, but 
I'm getting there, :-).

Have a nice day,
Yoonchi.

Re: [L-OT] Re: A Desire To Learn. About AES/EBU

2001-09-25 by Kool Musick

Kool Musick wrote:
> > There was a short thread a while ago on SP/DIF and AES/EBU.
> > I know what SP/DIF means:
> > However, I do not have a clue what AES/EBU means.
> > I suspect that it means American Engineering Society/European 
> Broadcasting Union
 > but I am not entirely certain.

Yoonchi wrote:
>For more you can read on www.aes.org. The terms you 'decode' above are
>correclty 'decoded'. It's just a society for standards for audio. Some
>things of some EBU standards I don't understand too well either, but
>I'm getting there, :-).

Thank you very much, kind sir.
Don't know about you, but I learned something today.

>Have a nice day,
>Yoonchi.

And you have a nice day also.

Kool Musick
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Re: [L-OT] A Desire To Learn

2001-09-25 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra

Thoughts from the mind of Kool Musick, 9/25/01:

>The poster who originally set off these various threads was not in the
>least interested in learning anything.
>By his own admission, he posted simply and in order to be confrontational.

?

>By his own admission, the poster also posted because he was 'annoyed' with
>the policies that he saw being currently enacted in certain areas of the
>world. The poster did not post asking what constructive he could do to get
>such policies altered ... but simply in order to register his displeasure
>with them.

?

That person seems to have admitted quite a few things that I've never 
read anywhere.  And for some odd reason, I get the creepy feeling 
that 'that person' is me.

>If that person is so concerned then they have do avenues available to them.

Maybe that person has not much faith in politics as a means to helps 
us towards enlightenment.  Or maybe that person feels that there's 
still, despite politics, something like personal responsibility. 
Meaning: having to say what you think you have to say, if you think 
it can in anyway contribute to the 'awakening' of mankind -- even if 
mankind in this case is just a 300/400 people group.

>But ... this is a list to learn from.

Maybe, just maybe, this entire discussion teaches all or some of us a 
lesson about how different various viewpoints can be.  And that there 
are other viewpoints than your own which might be at least equally 
valid.

So, yes, this is a list to learn from.


Have a nice day,
HJ
-- 
     Hendrik Jan Veenstra
     email: mailto:h@...
     www:   http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Re: [L-OT] A Desire To Learn

2001-09-26 by Kool Musick

Hendrik Jan wrote:

>Maybe that person has not much faith in politics as a means to helps
>us towards enlightenment.
You are not alone in thinking this. Not on this list. Not anywhere.

>Or maybe that person feels that there's
>still, despite politics, something like personal responsibility.
Begins at home.

>Maybe, just maybe, this entire discussion teaches all or some of us a
>lesson about how different various viewpoints can be.
Anyone here need to learn this?

>And that there
>are other viewpoints than your own which might be at least equally
>valid.
News to anybody?

>So, yes, this is a list to learn from.
Yes.

Especially when people ask questions.

>Have a nice day,
You also.

Kool Musick
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Re: A Desire To Learn

2001-09-28 by Teddy Kumpel

hey Mike, you need some counseling. The red cross can help. I'm serious.

Teddy
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> 
> Re: A Desire To Learn
> 
> Thoughts from the mind of Mike Cover, 9/26/01:
> 
>> Pooor Jan...I'm so sick and tired of "her" posts...I'll bet she even
>> imagines her dress is torn...
> 
> Hi honey, I'm home...
> 
>> What in God's name have you people ever done...except run... hash
>> shops, that is!!
> 
> Oh man, this surely must be a baaaad trip...  Gotta get me some
> better shit next time...
> 
>> Oh...Fuck off with your opinions!! You two were made for each
>> other...wish you both had your legs inside the WTC when it "went"...
> 
> Judging from the level of your incredible reasoning-skills, you
> probably had your head inside the WTC when it went.  Poor you.

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