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No I never referred to Israel as "the Jews", neither I consider the zionest
to represent the Jews. I have all respect for people with any religion they
choose "Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism or even fire" , there is a
big distinction between a religion and ideologies which lead to extremists
taking over, I prefer to keep quite from now on, there are a lot of people
who don¹t like discussing the statues of the world around here.

Bashar

>> 
>> Israel getting referred to as "the Jews". Fuck you. Israel is full of
>> Israelis, asshole.
>>

You're rant has some good points, except this comment which appears to be 
misinformed if not a tad hostile.

>Israel getting referred to as "the Jews". Fuck you. Israel is full of
>Israelis, asshole.

Israel has a "right of return" for various people who have never been to 
Israel before - these include Russian Jews, Polish Jews, Ethiopian Jews, 
and an American Jewish teenager who torture/murdered a young girl then 
fled to Israel and was able to stay there despite intense pressure from 
the US to bring him back for trial in the US. The "Israeli's" even 
airlifted a bunch of starving Ethiopian Jews to Israel.

Oh yeah, there are some non-Jews in Israel. They're called Palestinians. 
In fact the land you call Israel was called Palestine for thousands of 
years up to 1948 or so. There were no Israeli's before that time because 
there was no Israel. 

There is no right of return for Palestinians - even those who would like 
to actually return to the homes and property they owned.

>
>
>Israel getting referred to as "the Jews". Fuck you. Israel is full of
>Israelis, asshole.
>
I hope these harsh words (the "fuck you" and "asshole") are not directed 
to Basharar personally.
All opinions on this list are tolerated, however you're asked to treat 
people with respect!

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>> > Is it really America's fault for what is happening between Israel and
>> > palestein??

A  billion moslems think so - rightly or wrongly. The US recognized 
Israel six minutes after they declared that what was once Palestine was 
now Israel, and the people who had homes and farms there were now 
refugees, so that European immigrants could have a place to practice 
their religion. Without US support Israel would not be able to defend 
itself in an all out war with the Arabs. Also, its doubtful how well 
Israel would do economically. I heard there are more Jewish people in New 
York City than in Israel. So if we dump $4B a year into their economy, 
thats a lot of money for a little country. 

However, if you get at the root cause, it was the Nazi's. Had there been 
no extermination program, Jews would not have felt the urgent need for a 
homeland.

no , but the Palestinians are trying to put pressure on Israel and the only
effective way to do this today is convincing the world that all their
problems are because of the israel-palestinian.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Pendse [mailto:yumyum@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:34 PM
To: logic-ot@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [L-OT] The Real Cause is religion mixed with politics


> Is it really America's fault for what is happening between Israel and
> palestein??

Err.......






 

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