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78% of those are children under the age of 18,
The Israeli army is supporting the occupation, most of the israelis who
unfortunately got killed are illegal settlers in the west bank and Gaza, not
What about the 4 year old and the 50 civilians who got killed in the past
week of the past re-occupation of territories, the problem is that your
govenrment and people are living in there own lies and don¹t want to admit
reality, which is you are Occupying others land and freedom, and this will
not end unless you admit your neighbors as human beings and pull your tanks
and army out of there lands and streets along with the illegal settlers.

> yet people are thinking we're the bad guys.
> again most of those palestinians who get killed in the last year are armed
> people who got killed. and that's ok by me

Unfortunately you people have undergone a mass brain surgery and are too
scared to face the truth, the truth is you are the occupier and you need to
get out and make peace with your neighbors and earn there love not hatred
with you savage actions so your children and our children have a better and
safer future, but you have elected a war criminal that thinks that he can
terrorize an entire nation and force them to accept political compensations
by force. 

> as israelies are try is to
> minimise the number of innocent people get hurt while the palestinians are
> using every effort to kill more people , while lying to the international
> press.

There is a MAJOR difference between those Palestinians who have been killed
by the Israelies- the vast majority of them are armed Palestinians who
attached Israelis , and it doesn't matter if the Israelis I'm talking about
are soldiers or not.
even those who are not armed with gun ,usually, are participating in violent
"stone throwing" and violent so called "demonstrations".

The Israelis who got killed got murdered by shooting a car driving in a road
,shooting in a mall ,in a street .
Imaging you're walking in Tokyo and two man armed with semi-automatic guns
fires at you. that's the correct picture.

what pisses me off most the time is that the Israelis army are doing more
than any other army in the world ,trying not to kill, trying to keep
innocent people safe, unhurt - yet people are thinking we're the bad guys.
again most of those palestinians who get killed in the last year are armed
people who got killed. and that's ok by me. I'm sorry and surely  not happy
when some inocent people get killed ,but in war , and we are in "not
offical" war , inocent people get hurt. what we ,as israelies are try is to
minimise the number of innocent people get hurt while the palestinians are
using every effort to kill more people , while lying to the international
press.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Gunn [mailto:dennisg@...]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:46 PM
To: logic-ot@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [L-OT] RE: The Real Cause is religion mixed with
politics


>If you really want to learn the facts, you need to read a variety of
>books, and make sure they come from neutral sources - perhaps European
>sources.

Thank you.  Normally I believe every single word that I read.  I will 
try to be more careful in the future.  :-)

Meanwhile I was just wondering where to get started on that 
particular subject.  Some of the books that I was able to find in the 
past were things like huge volumes of nothing but unedited 
transcriptions of very long winded political speeches by all the 
parties involved in negotiations etc... with very little in the way 
of reporting on the incidents that that were going on at the times 
the politicians were speaking.  Great stuff for someone doing a 
university thesis but not a good place to start for someone just 
trying to get a little grip.



>The American media is not completely biased but its not fair either. Just
>today on CNN, a big report of a few Isrealis who were killed by some
>Palestinians - like it was headline news. However, each of the past few
>days greater numbers of Palestinians have been killed by the Israeli army
>which has re-invaded Palestinian controlled areas and these things are
>barely mentioned at all - often in passing and without any great hoopla.

I wonder if CNN and BBC are different here in Japan than in the 
States.  Here I mainly see pictures of Israeli tanks rolling around 
Palestinian neighborhoods and the big holes they leave behind.



 

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