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Re: [L-OT] Stick With Logic Audio or Go Back to Cakewalk?

Re: [L-OT] Stick With Logic Audio or Go Back to Cakewalk?

2000-04-17 by Sascha Franck

Michael Wolfindale wrote:
>I am now not sure whether getting Logic Audio was a good idea.  I am
>finding
>it difficult to get the hang of, never mind master it - whereas with
>Cakewalk, I mastered most of it in a short time (although I had used an
>older version a long time before that).

Just one thing about that:
As soon as you WILL be a bit more into Logic I'm pretty much sure that you
won't find it that complicated any longer. Actually I learned to do what I
needed in like 2 weeks. After that (IMO short) period of time I've been able
to master almost everything that I was doing in Cubase before (which I was
actually using for 6 years on a daily base until I switched).

>I am 15 and doing one of my GCSE
>(UK exams for 14 - 16 year olds) Music compositions, which has to be
>mostly
>finished in about two weeks

Well, ok, that's a hard time schedule. But, maybe it's possible for you to
borrow a copy of Cakewalk from somebody who's not using it for those two
weeks... I wouldn't trade in Logic for Cake in any case, just read on...

>I'd be interested to know what other people think of this - should I stick
>with Logic Audio (and probably struggle), or go back to Cakewalk?  I >asked
a
>friend who's into computers (but not really music software), and he said
>that the best programs are complicated to use at first.

As said above, I would in no case switch back to Cakewalk.

Logic, in almost all aspects, is the far superior sequencer on the Windows
platform.
Anyways, a question before you decide: Is Logic running stable on your
system? Especially: Do you get tight MIDI to audio sync and a good
performance?
If you can answer with "yes" to both questions, you should really try to
borrow a copy of Cakewalk to finish your exams but stay with Logic after
all.

Some points about Logic:
- Great handling of almost all MIDI tasks.
- Great part handling and zooming features in your arrangement = speeds up
your working enormously (at least that's what it did over here).
- Flexible audio engine, supporting all kinda plugin formats (DX, VST1/2,
internal). Will even be WAY better in the upcoming 4.5. Leads to:
- Internal plugins. If you're doing audio you gotta buy a more or less
expensive external plugin package to achieve what you can with Logic's
internal plugins.
- Screensets (!!!), awsome feature.
- Working in multiple editors at one time (does Cake do that? Don't know),
again speeding up things.
- Superflexible MIDI routing and effecting via the environment, you can
customize the way you're working and make Logic to integrate flawlessly in
your system.
- Hyperdraw! Awsome for automating things, I would never be able to live
without it again.
- Great look (IMO), not THAT unimportant, you gotta like the instruments you
work with (and to me Logic is nothing less than an instrument).
- Platform compatibility! Extremely important if you ever plan to do some
professional work (I wouldn't happen to know what a GCSE is, but it sounds
like important ;-). In general almost all halfway professional studios run
Logic, most of them still use Macs for that. With Cakewalk you'd be stuck to
the Windows platform and you'd have to do quite some efforts to transport
any projects of yours to another studio. With Logic this is just a breeze.
Burn a CD or just put your song on a floppy and you're all set, the Mac will
then load it more or less flawlessly.

I could perhaps list hundreds of more features that make Logic superior for
me, but that should be enough for now.

Lemme ask a final question: What are the things that make Logic so hard to
understand/use for you? Maybe we could help you to sort some things out if
you'd be a bit more specific.

So far,
Sascha

Re: [L-OT] Stick With Logic Audio or Go Back to Cakewalk?

2000-04-17 by Yoonchi

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From: Michael Wolfindale <mail@...>

<<
I used to have Cakewalk Professional 8 until I traded it in for Logic Audio
Gold for \ufffd129 (at Sound Technology, UK - www.soundtech.co.uk).

I am now not sure whether getting Logic Audio was a good idea.  I am finding
it difficult to get the hang of, never mind master it - whereas with
Cakewalk, I mastered most of it in a short time (although I had used an
older version a long time before that).  I am 15 and doing one of my GCSE
(UK exams for 14 - 16 year olds) Music compositions, which has to be mostly
finished in about two weeks
>>

Hi Micheal,
If I were you, I would stick with Logic. I've known Cakewalk 8, heard nice
things about Cakewalk 9. But I wouldn't change to Cakewalk, if I were you.
I think that, if you mastered Cakewalk in a short time, you should be able
to master Logic in a short time too.
Logic isn't that much different. It only has things organized a bit
different.
Read on...

<<
It would be interesting if anyone would like to share their opinion on
whether I should stick with Logic Audio or go back to Cakewalk.  I have been
in touch with Et Cetera (the UK Cakewalk distributor), and they have told me
I could send Logic Audio to them and they would give me Cakewalk Pro Audio 9
for \ufffd79, as if I was upgrading from Cakewalk Professional 8.  The problem is
, if I take that I'll be losing out on \ufffd129 - and I'll need to buy a
seperate notation program (probably Cakewalk Overture 2).
>>

First of all, I don't think that you would need an extra notation
application, if you bought the Pro version of Cakewalk. The Pro version has
a notational part.
Logic's notational part is much more elegant than the one in Cakewalk. In
the long run it's it's money's worth.
I wouldn't do that trade if I were you, cause it would only cost you more.
Bad deal.

<<
I'd be interested to know what other people think of this - should I stick
with Logic Audio (and probably struggle), or go back to Cakewalk?  I asked a
friend who's into computers (but not really music software), and he said
that the best programs are complicated to use at first.
>>

Since the last version, version 4, of Logic, things are much better
organized.
If you have problems, I would say ask away. As Sascha asked, I would also
like to ask: what are the things you find difficult in Logic? Since I know
Cakewalk too, you could ask me the things you want to do and I could point
you in the right direction.
Sascha is even a teacher, and so am I kind of, so it can't be that difficult
to help you out with that exam, can it?
Believe me, you'll be very happy that you stuck with Logic in two weeks.
Good luck and just ask,
Yoonchi.

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