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Thomas Whitmore wrote:
>> Music is time, continuously numbered with fractions etc. Counting is
>> discrete integers and is more appropriate for sheep.

Then <tt@...> replied:
>Music is NOT time; a 4 bar phrase occupies a diffent length of time
>depending on the tempo of the piece! If you want to I'm sure you can
>switch the ruler to SMPTE which will then give you your time, starting
>0 hrs 0 mins 0 secs 0frms.

Check out the following logical deduction:
Time is a parameter of existence, related to space( space-time continuum).
Signals are produced in the space-time continuum. So music is related to
space-time continuum, due to the fact that without the space-time continuum
we are not able to produce and perceive music. That is if you presume that
music is 'a set of events with as result a production of sounds, that are
more or less correlated'.
Due to the fact that time is the factor that defined music( if there is time
then music is possible), time implies music. And without time there is no
music. Therefore music is time, by logical deduction.

Okay, true, I could have deduced something else too, if my presumptions are
different. If my presumption of the definition of 'music' was different, I
would have had another conclusion as a result.
:-).

>> Anyway, I want this as an option - no-one else would have to use it. But
>> there is strong logic & practicality supporting it...
>
>That would lead to bloatware ... that's M$s arena not Emagic's! :)

Hmm, is it bloatware to have options to let the user choose how he/she
works? Then the Matrix Editor wouldn't have been here, if we could all write
music in the Score Editor. There is something else to consider: different
ways of working could also result in different kinds of music types.
Remember when hiphop started out as some kids using turntables to express
themselves. Or punk, kids who couldn't 'play' instruments, started using
guitars to express themselves. All these cultural influences are in the
mainstream now today, one way or another.
What would you think if people would start making some kind of 'continuous
music' because this 'time element' was introduced in music. I bet that
people who compose for soundtracks already don't think in the traditional
music elements of notes and bars only anymore. They must think in fractions
of time to create moods, or something like that.

This is getting pretty much off topic, so I posted this mail to the OT list
too, in case people want to continue this thread. It would be  interesting
to continue this thread. But the LUG is getting to much clogged if we
continue it over here. For the ones not on the OT list: send a message to
logic-ot-subscribe@onelist.com to subscribe to it. Btw, there is no traffic
on there, AFAIK.
Have a smooth Sunday,
Yoonchi.



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