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Hi, I'm thinking about putting my G4 MP 800-Machine in another room than my
studio, to quieten it (!!!). I got a little storage room next to my
studio-room in my appartement, and was wondering whether it would work or
not: it is directly under the roof and not strongly isolated, (cooler than
average room temperature, in autumn and winter at least).
Cooler seems to be ok for a Machine that needs cooling, but I was wondering
if the seemingly dry but cold environment could damage the Computer in any
way, condensing warm air out of the Computers cooling system etc....

I would only have to get two holes in the wall, and slightly lengthen some
cables...

Any ideas/tips etc. would be greatly appreciated.

regards, Frank Valet

>Hi, I'm thinking about putting my G4 MP 800-Machine in another room than my
>studio, to quieten it (!!!). I got a little storage room next to my
>studio-room in my appartement, and was wondering whether it would work or
>not: it is directly under the roof and not strongly isolated, (cooler than
>average room temperature, in autumn and winter at least).
>Cooler seems to be ok for a Machine that needs cooling, but I was wondering
>if the seemingly dry but cold environment could damage the Computer in any
>way, condensing warm air out of the Computers cooling system etc....
>
>I would only have to get two holes in the wall, and slightly lengthen some
>cables...
>
>Any ideas/tips etc. would be greatly appreciated.
>
Condensation happens when warm damp air hits a cold thing.  Since you 
are talking about the opposite situation I don't think there should 
be a problem.  In fact I bet as you said your computer will be ultra 
stable because the running temp should go down making it happy perky.

>Hi, I'm thinking about putting my G4 MP 800-Machine in another room than my
>studio, to quieten it (!!!).

I would think that it would be easier to build a foam-covered box around it. There are also some web pages I've seen for making your PCs quieter (you have to do a search for them, as this was awhile ago).

Then you don't have to worry about hacking up the structure or worry about condensation, etc.

Bob

>  >Hi, I'm thinking about putting my G4 MP 800-Machine in another room than my
>>studio, to quieten it (!!!).
>
>I would think that it would be easier to build a foam-covered box 
>around it. There are also some web pages I've seen for making your 
>PCs quieter (you have to do a search for them, as this was awhile 
>ago).
>
>Then you don't have to worry about hacking up the structure or worry 
>about condensation, etc.

That is not easy and it does not work very good.  I have build 
isolation boxes and I have drilled holes in walls,  the hole in walls 
work better and are easier.

>.That is not easy and it does not work very good.  I have build 
>isolation boxes and I have drilled holes in walls,  the hole in walls 
>work better and are easier.

How about using CD drive ? External ? or always working to another room ?

Ray.


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>How about using CD drive ? External ? or always working to another room ?

Firewire CD writer.  I also use a cinema display so I have a power 
switch within reach.

Is it right that the G4 mirror drive doors do not have a reset button 
and that in case of freezes the only thing to do is pull the plug???

Thanks for any info.

Bob.
-- 
Bob Lowen
Antwerp, Belgium

Email: rlow@...

>Is it right that the G4 mirror drive doors do not have a reset button
>and that in case of freezes the only thing to do is pull the plug???
>
>Thanks for any info.
>
>Bob.
>--

I don't know, but if there is no reset button, I imagine the 'old'
hold the power button down for > 5 seconds shutdown should still
work. AFAIK no Mac ever required pulling the plug unless:

a. The user didn't know of this 'feature' or
b. This 'feature' no longer works or is not supported on some models, or
c. It didn't have a power button. (And I think they *all* do).

S.

Hi guys,

Today I tried to get a M-audio Audiophile USB  to work with my 2x2 G5 in OS 
10.2.8 but none of the three drivers provided by M-audio did work. I guess this 
is a "G5 issue". Any comments?

(I've ordered Panther but am still waiting)

The worst thing though is that Safari got got hurt by the bad drivers, so now 
when I open Safari it closes down with an error message informing me that it 
has closed down (how intelligent!)  I can still use MS Explorer to surf the web 
but I liked Safari and want to get it into shape again. How?

On my old Mac (OS 7.6.1) I simply trashed the preferances in the system 
folder to fix an issue like this, but what can I do in Jaguar?

All the best

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se

>  >Is it right that the G4 mirror drive doors do not have a reset button
>>and that in case of freezes the only thing to do is pull the plug???
>>
>>Thanks for any info.
>>
>>Bob.
>>--
>
>I don't know, but if there is no reset button, I imagine the 'old'
>hold the power button down for > 5 seconds shutdown should still
>work. AFAIK no Mac ever required pulling the plug unless:
>
>a. The user didn't know of this 'feature' or
>b. This 'feature' no longer works or is not supported on some models, or
>c. It didn't have a power button. (And I think they *all* do).
>
>S.

Thanks Spectro, I new that, but it just shuts down the computer and 
then you have to restart, it is not a reset as in "the good old 
days". But you are right of course, it beats "literally pulling the 
plug". I actually meant this in a general 
"complete-shut-down-and-start-up" sense. By the way, sometimes you 
really have to pull the plug because even the shutdown procedure does 
not work, but I am sure you knew that.

Cheers, Bob
-- 
Bob Lowen
Antwerp, Belgium

Email: rlow@...

Hi all,

Does anyone have such a computer with 1 internal harddisk, with only 
OS9.2.2 installed on it, and which works normally. In particular, I 
am unable with this setup to startup the computer from a CD or from 
an external disk and see the internal harddisk on the desktop. It 
just never shows. So I am unable to do things to the internal 
harddisk which require it not being the startup disk because it will 
only show on the desktop if it is the startup disk. Weird.

Cheers, Bob.
-- 
Bob Lowen
Antwerp, Belgium

Email: rlow@...

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "perboysen" <per@b...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Today I tried to get a M-audio Audiophile USB  to work with my 2x2 G5 in OS 
> 10.2.8 but none of the three drivers provided by M-audio did work. I guess this 
> is a "G5 issue". Any comments?
> 
> (I've ordered Panther but am still waiting)
> 
> The worst thing though is that Safari got got hurt by the bad drivers, so now 
> when I open Safari it closes down with an error message informing me that it 
> has closed down (how intelligent!)  I can still use MS Explorer to surf the web 
> but I liked Safari and want to get it into shape again. How?
> 
> On my old Mac (OS 7.6.1) I simply trashed the preferances in the system 
> folder to fix an issue like this, but what can I do in Jaguar?
> 
Hi Per,
uninstall ALL the M-Audio software and drivers...then wait until M-Audio gets current 
drivers up on their website.
On the new Mac OS it is better to get rid of ALL the items from an installation,to be 
sure it won't harm your OS,and then reboot.Kind of like Unix,or Winblows.(Remember 
the new Mac os x and later is really a UNIX based software,NOT at all like the old 9.2.2 
or older Mac OSs.
Hope this helps,
Nick

www.nicksevilla.com

On 03-11-03 17.46,  "nick_sevilla" <nick_sevilla@...> wrote:

> --- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "perboysen" <per@b...> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> Today I tried to get a M-audio Audiophile USB  to work with my 2x2 G5 in OS
>> 10.2.8 but none of the three drivers provided by M-audio did work. I guess
>> this 
>> is a "G5 issue". Any comments?
>> 
>> (I've ordered Panther but am still waiting)
>> 
>> The worst thing though is that Safari got got hurt by the bad drivers, so now
>> when I open Safari it closes down with an error message informing me that it
>> has closed down (how intelligent!)  I can still use MS Explorer to surf the
>> web 
>> but I liked Safari and want to get it into shape again. How?
>> 
>> On my old Mac (OS 7.6.1) I simply trashed the preferances in the system
>> folder to fix an issue like this, but what can I do in Jaguar?
>> 
> Hi Per,
> uninstall ALL the M-Audio software and drivers...then wait until M-Audio gets
> current 
> drivers up on their website.
> On the new Mac OS it is better to get rid of ALL the items from an
> installation,to be
> sure it won't harm your OS,and then reboot.Kind of like Unix,or
> Winblows.(Remember
> the new Mac os x and later is really a UNIX based software,NOT at all like the
> old 9.2.2 
> or older Mac OSs.
> Hope this helps,
> Nick
> 
> www.nicksevilla.com


Thanks Nick. I actually fixed the Safari hang-up with the Apple Support on
the phone line (90 days free support). But Apple Support could not tell me
how to get rid of all M-Audio driver items from the installation. Although I
was amazed about that, my system is now working fine again.

-- 
Best wishes

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se