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Any help or thoughts would be appreciated.  Here is the problem.

On Monday I acquired Panther for an upgrade.  Figured I'd get this 
out of the way then go from Logic 5.5.1 to Logic Pro when it is 
released.  Since I am a "switcher" (about 1 year ago) I wasn't 
expecting what happened - which was Panther kepts freezing around 
13% when writing System Base 1 files.  I went to the Apple store 
(Newport Beach) and we started brainstorming.  We took out memory 
cards (I've got 2 gigs total).  Same thing.  we tried a different 
Panther disk (same thing /problem).  we pulled out the Delta 1010 
card (same thing /problem).  

Since I bought my machine through my favorite music store - who got 
it from mac mall - I've come to learn that my memory cards and SCSI 
hard drives are not "apple made" and therefore my warranty does not 
apply (from Mac).  The techs called me tonight and said "we put in 
an IDE hard drive and got Panther installed no problem. We think 
your SCSI drive or controller is the issue (that is what I suspected 
after all my other test)".  We'll run some 12 hour hardware test and 
call you in the morning and let you know the next step.  Now my 
question for the group - do any of you have SCSI hard drives and 
cards in your machine and did you exeperience any trouble upgrading 
to Panther?  I don't want to "clean install" because it will take 
another week of getting Logic and the Delta 1010 and Core Midi/Audio 
working.  

Any advise or "war stories" appreciated.  Post here if it is helpful 
to the group or privately at Antcinq@....

Thanks

"antcinq" <AntCinq@a...> wrote:

> Any advise or "war stories" appreciated.  Post here if it is helpful 
> to the group or privately at Antcinq@a...

Don't know about the SCSI compatibility and stuff, etc., etc.... 

But, I do know that it is EXTREMELY important to use the DISK UTILITY on the Panther 
Disc #1 BEFORE upgrading. (Once you start up from the CD, immediately select the 
DISK UTILITY from the menu above). 

Make sure that you run the REPAIR DISK and REPAIR PERMISSIONS several times until 
you get no errors at all (on the physical hard drive volume, as well as the partitions 
that you have (even if only the main one)).... 

Then upgrade choose the "Archive and Install" option (since you don't want to "Erase 
and Install") and choose to preserve your user and network settings, etc.... 

You might not even have to reinstall Logic this way at all.... 

Also, try downloading this $5 PDF file from this site: http://www.tidbits.com/
takecontrol/

"Take Control of Upgrading to Panther" has some great advice, which helped me have 
a 100% "event-free" upgrade just last week!!!   ;-)

Good luck man!

Chris M.

I was naive and hope others heed your caution.  Being a long time PC 
user, I would dread and "put off" loading anything on my PC.  My 
experience with the Mac has been stellar and I presumed it would 
continue to be so.  I even bought my mother an iMac for the holiday 
because I was so tired of fixing her PC.  I didn't do any research 
prior to upgrading and if others are listening, you are correct 
about your advise.  Thanks.  The Tech people called me today and 
told me that they got Panther on my machine after removing my SCSI 
drive and installing an IDE drive.  At least it is not my memory or 
motherboard....hopefully they'll finish tomorrow and I can get back 
to making music on Sunday.

Thanks again...

Tony


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> But, I do know that it is EXTREMELY important to use the DISK 
UTILITY on the Panther 
> Disc #1 BEFORE upgrading. (Once you start up from the CD, 
immediately select the 
> DISK UTILITY from the menu above). 
> 
> Make sure that you run the REPAIR DISK and REPAIR PERMISSIONS 
several times until 
> you get no errors at all (on the physical hard drive volume, as 
well as the partitions 
> that you have (even if only the main one)).... 
> 
> Then upgrade choose the "Archive and Install" option (since you 
don't want to "Erase 
> and Install") and choose to preserve your user and network 
settings, etc.... 
> 
> You might not even have to reinstall Logic this way at all.... 
> 
> Also, try downloading this $5 PDF file from this site: 
http://www.tidbits.com/
> takecontrol/
> 
> "Take Control of Upgrading to Panther" has some great advice, 
which helped me have 

> a 100% "event-free" upgrade just last week!!!   ;-)
> 
> Good luck man!
> 
> Chris M.