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> But the Monster line is apparently not a
> good value for the money.

Just like Bose, here's a great example of a company that thrives on
a
false consumer perception of the quality of their products. People
(especially home theater consumers) think that they make the highest
quality cable on the market, therefore it must be true.

However, a much more important reason to never ever ever ever ever
ever
use anything from Monster is their vicious, absurd, thuggish
litigation
practices. They will pretty much sue anyone, audio-related or not,
that
uses the word "Monster" in their name. None of which would in any
way be
confused with their company, such as the TV show Monster Garage,
the movie
Monsters Inc., a vintage clothing store called Monster Vintage, so
on and
so on.

It's ludicrous that they are allowed to continue this practice.

A Google search will show scores of frivolous lawsuits they've
filed over
the years, none of which have merit and many of which have proved
disastrous to the defendants, forcing many innocent business owners
to
spend untold dollars to defend themselves against these false
accusations,
and sometimes lose the companies they worked so hard to build.

Boycott all Monster products. Period. No exceptions.

Brian Pylant wrote:
> Boycott all Monster products. Period. No exceptions.

Completely agreed on.

This topic has been raised before a few years or so back - and well, what 
can I say? I got a bunch of Monster cables to test with my live guitar rig 
(basicallly 4 of them - for the "main" connections, from the guitar to the 
pedal board, from the pedal board and back to an insert loop and the final 
output, with 2 more of them as a spare), and while they are certainly nice 
cables, I simply gave them back (to a friend who is some sort of endorser, 
even if he's currently re-thinking things). Could've kept them for free, but 
I just don't support any such tactics. In addition, there's cables for *way* 
less, sounding just as good to my ears, at least for instrument purposes (in 
Germany, Rockinger is supplying quite some nice pre-made cables for a lot 
less, but personally, I still prefer to just solder them myself).

I really don't give a flying f*** whether there's lifelong warranty or not. 
I've got more than enough cables that I've soldered like almost 20 years 
ago - and they're still working. In case they wouldn't, I'd just either 
resolder them or get a new cable for 5 bucks, still using the same Neutrik 
plugs that I've bought back then. And I don't expect to get any older than 
200 years.

And well, there's simply no excuse to support any such business tactics at 
all. More to the opposite (actually, *exactly* to the opposite). In other 
words: That Noel Lee dude can happily rot in hell for what he's trying to do 
to folks. And yes, I'm serious. That's just no way to found an even remotely 
proper business.

And fwiw, finally there's serious folks speaking up. See this:
http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back
I seriously wish Kurt Denke all the success in the world.

Regards
Sascha

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Brian Pylant <bappo@...> wrote:
>
> [reposted from the LUG at moderator request]
> 
> 
> 
> > But the Monster line is apparently not a
> > good value for the money.
> 
> Just like Bose, here's a great example of a company that thrives on
> a
> false consumer perception of the quality of their products. People
> (especially home theater consumers) think that they make the highest
> quality cable on the market, therefore it must be true.
> 
> However, a much more important reason to never ever ever ever ever
> ever
> use anything from Monster is their vicious, absurd, thuggish
> litigation
> practices. They will pretty much sue anyone, audio-related or not,
> that
> uses the word "Monster" in their name. None of which would in any
> way be
> confused with their company, such as the TV show Monster Garage,
> the movie
> Monsters Inc., a vintage clothing store called Monster Vintage, so
> on and
> so on.
> 
> It's ludicrous that they are allowed to continue this practice.
> 
> A Google search will show scores of frivolous lawsuits they've
> filed over
> the years, none of which have merit and many of which have proved
> disastrous to the defendants, forcing many innocent business owners
> to
> spend untold dollars to defend themselves against these false
> accusations,
> and sometimes lose the companies they worked so hard to build.
> 
> Boycott all Monster products. Period. No exceptions.
>

I am with you too man ,

> Brian Pylant wrote:
>> Boycott all Monster products. Period. No exceptions.
>
> On Apr 24, 2008, at 7:06 AM, Sascha Franck responded:
> Completely agreed on.

+1.

I wonder if they also make power cables? :-) Sorry, could not resist.

Best,

Andy

Maybe they are.............MONSTERS   ;)
Wayne