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What really ticks me off abour protel (I haven't used orcad for years) 
is that, despite the price you don't even get a printed manual, and, to 
make matters worse it has one of the very worst 'HELP' systems I've ever 
come across. Even worse there are no decent third party books available. 
When you pay that much for a package the very least they could do is 
have the decency to throw in printed manuals. Also the newer versions 
come with FPGA development tools and a whole heap odf stuff I don't 
want, but they won't split the package, you have to buy them, I bought 
'98, but regretted it, and when that hits its use by date I will be 
lookign around for something better for the money.

Al

daedalworks@... wrote:

>For Linux, check out gEDA (geda.seul.org).  It is an open-source package with schematic capture, simulation, layout, etc.  I haven't actually used it (yet), but it has an active developer community and you can't beat the price ;-)
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>>    I do not have to many complaints about DXP or even the older Protel
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>Same over here. I use (used) Protel as a hobbyist, board designs are only
>one-of and for my own personal use. Therefor I was not to concerned about
>using an illegal version (as a plus I will tell others how good Protel is
>:-) )
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>I am however getting into problems soon. I want to design a board for
>'commercial' use and that's definitely not taking place using any illegal
>software so I now have to search for other schematic entry and PCB design
>tools that I can use for this.
>Numbers and price will be this low that I cannot afford to buy Protel,
>Pulsonix or Orcad so I started looking at free (Linux based) tools for
>this.
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>Anyone having experience with these kind of tools (which ones are
>available???). I need schematic entry plus PCB design for combined SMD and
>through hole mounting components. I can do without autorouting and 2
>layers should be enough (4 is nice) and it must be able to export
>datafiles for production (never did this before).
>And before I forget: I do not like to use the "1000 pin limit demo
>versions", I always tend to need just that one pin more ...
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>Rob - would buy Protel/DXP if I could afford it
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