My last shot... GNU is free. But the learning curve to use it is higher than IAR or Keil. (They pretty much work in the first hour out of the box) I bought a $1000 pre-configured GNU a couple years a go. It still didn't solve the learning curve. I like and use the IDEs. I often use an external editor, but making quick change in the IDE is nice. I work on projects with 50+ source files. The IDE manages builds well. Finally, most all of the benchmarks show that the professional compilers generate better code: smaller and faster. Smaller is not that useful, but faster always is a priority. GNU is valuable once you climb the learning curve, but the $2500 or so to buy commercial tools is cheap compared to the value of my time in lashing together a system. If you have climbed the learning curve, great. Dan _____ From: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lpc2000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marko Panger Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 1:26 PM To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Looking to buy compiler Hi, Mr. Dan and Mr. Greg said some thing which I simply must comment. Sorry. While I agree that if you are a HW engineer and you have just to toggle some IO pins go with a commercial product which is very easy to use, I totally disagree that GCC is bad documented, no support,...and things like you wrote. For sure you don't know GCC world enough to comment like this. I don't want to go further with this bar discussion but inform/teach yourself a little bit about GCC/Gdb/RDI and such things and you will be pretty surprised how powerful GCC and companion tools are. And really you don't have to build your own car, because you can get precompiled packages of GCC. (www.gnuarm.com, www.codesourcery.com) , and try to RTFM before comment so hard. Regards, marko Dan Beadle wrote: >I am with you about GNU. Cheap, but my time is worth a lot. IAR and >Keil are Chevy vs Ford. > > > > _____ > >From: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lpc2000@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf >Of Greg Deuerling >Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 11:48 AM >To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [lpc2000] Looking to buy compiler > > > > > > >>For a professional developer which would be the compiler of choice: >> >>IAR >>Keil >>Or another? >> >> > >I use Keil and like it a lot. What few problems with the compiler I've >found had been fixed with in several days. The support is great. > >There are going to be a lot of people suggesting GNU and while I sure it >a >powerful development tool I can't stand to use it. I'm a hardware >engineer >that programs and I don't want to have to be a frigg'n GNU expert just >to >use a compiler. I compare buying a compiler to buying a car; buy >Keil/Iar/... and you get a fully assembled car, use GNU and you get a >box >full of unlabeled parts, crappy documentation, no support, and you put >your >own car together out of these parts... > >If you want a great tool that is well supported grab Keil or one of the >other commercial compiler packages. > >Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory >Electronic Systems Engineering Group >Greg Deuerling > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > >Microprocessor ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Microprocessor&w1=Microprocessor&w 2 >=Microcontrollers&w3=Pic+microcontrollers&c=3&s=68&.sig=YXTZih-RJw5W96E T >RMZhDQ> > >Microcontrollers ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Microcontrollers&w1=Microprocessor & >w2=Microcontrollers&w3=Pic+microcontrollers&c=3&s=68&.sig=bE-R787UQ86O4 x >FnkFUcUw> > >Pic microcontrollers ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Pic+microcontrollers&w1=Microproce s >sor&w2=Microcontrollers&w3=Pic+microcontrollers&c=3&s=68&.sig=kb_XlXirZ U >mIq6ZO0okS1g> > > > > _____ > >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > >* Visit your group "lpc2000 ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lpc2000> " on the web. > >* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ><mailto:lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > >* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > > > _____ > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "lpc2000 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lpc2000> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:lpc2000-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [lpc2000] Looking to buy compiler
2005-11-06 by Dan Beadle
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