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Re: [lpc2000] Re: JTAG debugging options

2006-01-03 by Sean

This is a very good point:  why are they offering their software for free, 
knowing full well that other people are using it on competitor's hardware?

Yes, baud rates are slower over parallel, although you can get > 1mbit/sec 
on the parallel port itself, perhaps only 25KB/sec when using wiggler, but 
even there, even with a rather large code size of 512KB, this is only 20 
seconds to download...  For most debugging scenarios you won't need to 
download the full size anyway, and if you split your program into modules 
you can get by with only debugging a module at a time, which means you only 
need to load a few dozen KB at a time?

-- Sean

At 10:21 PM 1/2/2006, you wrote:
>Sean pointed out that the Macraigor Wiggler is $150 whilst the
>Olimex clone is $19 and asks "what's the deal here?"
>
>Open up a wiggler and you'll see that it's a cheap level-shifter
>chip and a transistor built into a DB-25 shell. Admittedly, $19
>seems more like a fair price, but Olimex didn't write the OCDRemote
>and OCDCommander software and didn't have to ammortize any software
>development (Macraigor does). Macraigor probably provides more
>telephone support if the customer has trouble getting it to work.
>
>Even the fastest wiggler baud rate is slow in comparison to the
>newer USB and Ethernet JTAG debuggers. This is not obvious in short
>demo programs, but painful if you are downloading a very large
>program.
>
>I worry about myself and others relying on the Macraigor OCDRemote
>JTAG program that interfaces GDB to the JTAG pins. OCDRemote is NOT
>open-source. Macraigor allows free downloads of the OCDRemote
>executable but the source code has always been proprietary. They
>could withdraw this "freebie" at any time.
>
>We need two things. A reasonably priced USB JTAG debugger supported
>by a true "open-source" GDB/JTAG driver. Until then, the debugging
>situation will remain tenuous, at best (for those on limited
>budgets).
>
>Cheers,
>James P. Lynch
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