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Re: Supply Current. Lots additional information

2005-02-02 by tah2k

I didn't see an explanantion for the 350uA sleep current or my 
questions 1 and 2 concerning the I/O. Do I need to try a new device 
on the evaluation board?

50uA sleep current is perfect, 140uA is tolerable, and 350uA is a 
show stopper.

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "philips_apps" <philips_apps@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> I guess the 350 mA (the "m" should be a "u")was a typo. What you
> measured in power down for the RTC is correct between 15 and 20 
uAs. 
> Logic in this process needs to run at 1.8V +/- 10 %. A pin like 
Vbat
> needs a wider spec and a different voltage. The spec for Vbat will 
be
> significantly extended to probably 2.0V-3.6V (characterization is
> ongoing). To not damage the logic we need to convert the external
> voltage down to 1.8V The converter uses most of the 18 uAs you 
measured. 
> The higher current during active mode is due to an chip failure on 
the
> first devices, which have been used to build evaluation boards. New
> devices will not draw higher current during active mode on Vbat but
> still draw the 15-20 uAs.
> 
> THIS INFORMATION IS SPECIFIC FOR THE LPC2130 series
> Power down current on the first devices was measured around 140 
uAs,
> keeping all the RAM intact. Our latest lot with some fixes brings 
this
> value down to approx 50 uAs. 
> While this value might be too high for some of you, it might be 
good
> enough for others and it is for sure a lot better than the previous
> option to go into idle mode using the RTC.
> 
> Comparing an ARM build in 0.18um process to an AVR, PIC, MSP430 or 
you
> name them is really comparing apples to oranges. New processes 
enable
> the chip vendors to put more memory and build faster devices but 
the
> leakage goes up. 
> 
> In the end the only thing I can tell you, this is as good as it 
gets
> right now. Will let everybody know if we find ways to improve the
> power down behavior. Keep in mind that active current is as low or
> lower than an 8-bit running at the same clock rate delivering a lot
> less performance. 
> 
> Regards, Robert
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "tah2k" <tah2k@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > I finally got to the point of shutting down the LPC2138 on the 
Keil 
> > development board. Battery life is critical to my application, 
> > therefore I need to verify the sleep specification. At room 
> > temperature, with all I/O configured as input except for JTAG, I 
am 
> > measuring 350mA just on the VDD pins! Far from 10uA. All 
peripheral 
> > clocks are disabled except the RTC which is configured to use 
the 
> > 32kHz. 
> > 
> > FYI:
> > Vbat: ~31uA while processor is on, ~18uA during powerdown. (Just 
for 
> > the RTC?!?!)
> > 
> > When it comes to sleep current issues, the first thing vendors 
> > usually question is the I/O state. The following are the 
relevant 
> > register values:
> > 
> > PINSEL0: 0x0
> > PINSEL1: 0x0
> > PINSEL2: 0x4
> > 
> > IODIR0: 0x0
> > IODIR1: 0x0
> > 
> > IOPIN0: 0x7EFFF7F8
> > IOPIN1: 0x03FF0000
> > 
> > I'm puzzled about the I/O:
> > 1.) The IOPIN register does not necessarily reflect the state of 
the 
> > I/O line. For example, P0.4 is not connected on the Keil board. 
> > Since this pin is configured as an input, I would suspect the 
> > voltage on the pin to reflect the internal pullup, but it 
measures 
> > 0V. Even more puzzling, IOPIN0 states this input is high. Go 
figure.
> > 
> > 2.) Another concern: P0.31 is not connected, but configured as 
an 
> > input. If I measure the pin voltage it is 2.3 instead of 3.3V. 
This 
> > is also true for P1.16-23 and P1.24-25. Could I be leaking 
current 
> > through the pullup resistor?
> > 
> > -Tim
> ---  snip   -----

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