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RE: [lpc2000] Vendors: no business without a LINUX-based product

2005-03-24 by Joe Hlebasko

I am getting tired of Linux users claiming that Linux is so much better than
Windows/OSX/QNX/Unix whatever. The market decides which OS a development
tool company will support. 

If Linux was so good, then why isn't there more Linux support from
development tool companies?

I lived through the MAC/PC OS Wars of the '90s. I'll say it now and as I
said it back then the market will ultimately decide which platform is
better.

Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Delmage [mailto:BDelmage@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:11 PM
> To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [lpc2000] Vendors: no business without a LINUX-based product
> 
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> I am getting tired of toolset vendors who offer useful 
> products, but then cripple them and make developers lives 
> needlessly unpleasant by only offering their products only on 
> MS Windows.
> 
> Messages like this one, on one toolset provider's web page bug me:
> "We are considering a Mac OSX / Linux port of our compiler 
> tools, including ICCV7 for ARM. There is no firm commitment 
> yet and nothing likely to be done until toward the end of 2005."
> 
> Take note! You will not get my business then. Don't call me, 
> I'll call you.
> 
> Those who use both (I have a Linux and Windows system on my 
> desk) will know that M$ Windows is an inferior development 
> environment. Take just one example: For years now, the Linux 
> desktop has outperformed a Windows interface that has 
> remained stagnant more than 10 years. Both KDE or GNOME have 
> offered a far more usable desktop, with basic features like 
> multiple desktops and window layer control, for years.
> 
> Then there is Linux's excellent networking, many choices of 
> graphical file browsers, command line access, umpteen other 
> included free tools, robustness and fundamentally designed-in 
> defense against viruses, adware...  And why use cygwin when 
> you can run native?
> 
> If an ARM cross-compiler toolset is developed using one of 
> many basic windowing libraries and with portability in mind 
> then porting should _not_ be a major issue at all.
> 
> Following the recent thread on dongles, It seems that some 
> vendors are way more worried about copy-protection than 
> building an excellent product that sells itself and that 
> everyone will want to buy.
> 
> In my opinion, toolset developers will lose more and more 
> (profitable) market to embedded Linux, its variants and gcc 
> because they are invisible on the Linux development platform. 
> This is not to say that embedded Linux or complex variants 
> are appropriate for many lower-end embedded applications. But 
> wake up and smell the coffee! As we witness with the LPC 
> series, silicon capability and complexity continues to 
> increase, making higher-end environments more and more 
> appropriate for many applications. Toolset developers stuck 
> only on MS Windows (and sticking their customers with MS 
> Windows) will increasingly be caught between Linux for larger 
> apps (anyone see which way cell phone companies are heading 
> these days?) and gcc-based tools for both upper and lower end 
> applications.
> 
> Too bad. There's some useful toolset product development 
> going on, but it's wasted. I would like to see some serious 
> competition on the Linux platform and have vendors to choose from.
> 
>   Brett
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