Lpc2000

Joe Hlebasko wrote:

> I am getting tired of Linux users claiming that Linux is so much 
> better than
> Windows/OSX/QNX/Unix whatever. The market decides which OS a development
> tool company will support.
>
> If Linux was so good, then why isn't there more Linux support from
> development tool companies?
>
> I lived through the MAC/PC OS Wars of the '90s. I'll say it now and as I
> said it back then the market will ultimately decide which platform is
> better.

Windows won the OS wars for one simple reason. The MAC was a closed 
architecture, the PC was an open arhcitecture. Everybody and their 
uncles was building add on cards and writing code for windows, noboday 
could afford a licence for MAC. You could get free, or effectively free 
software to do anything on a PC, and find hardware for just about any 
imaginable extension, MAC software and hardware was both rare and 
grossly overpriced.

Windows is an absolute piece of crap, it's bloated, it's slow, and it's 
riddled with bugs, but it's also used by 90% of all businesses, so if my 
clients have to be able to run the same stuff I do, and they run Windows 
I can either piss them off or bite my tongue and use the same piece of 
crap they do.

Now that I've quit contracting I no longer care, so I 'm probably going 
to convert an old system to Linux. I still won't get rid of Windows 
though, simply because all the best games are written for it.

Al

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>
> Joe
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brett Delmage [mailto:BDelmage@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:11 PM
> > To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [lpc2000] Vendors: no business without a LINUX-based product
> >
> >
> > I am getting tired of toolset vendors who offer useful
> > products, but then cripple them and make developers lives
> > needlessly unpleasant by only offering their products only on
> > MS Windows.
> >
> > Messages like this one, on one toolset provider's web page bug me:
> > "We are considering a Mac OSX / Linux port of our compiler
> > tools, including ICCV7 for ARM. There is no firm commitment
> > yet and nothing likely to be done until toward the end of 2005."
> >
> > Take note! You will not get my business then. Don't call me,
> > I'll call you.
> >
> > Those who use both (I have a Linux and Windows system on my
> > desk) will know that M$ Windows is an inferior development
> > environment. Take just one example: For years now, the Linux
> > desktop has outperformed a Windows interface that has
> > remained stagnant more than 10 years. Both KDE or GNOME have
> > offered a far more usable desktop, with basic features like
> > multiple desktops and window layer control, for years.
> >
> > Then there is Linux's excellent networking, many choices of
> > graphical file browsers, command line access, umpteen other
> > included free tools, robustness and fundamentally designed-in
> > defense against viruses, adware...  And why use cygwin when
> > you can run native?
> >
> > If an ARM cross-compiler toolset is developed using one of
> > many basic windowing libraries and with portability in mind
> > then porting should _not_ be a major issue at all.
> >
> > Following the recent thread on dongles, It seems that some
> > vendors are way more worried about copy-protection than
> > building an excellent product that sells itself and that
> > everyone will want to buy.
> >
> > In my opinion, toolset developers will lose more and more
> > (profitable) market to embedded Linux, its variants and gcc
> > because they are invisible on the Linux development platform.
> > This is not to say that embedded Linux or complex variants
> > are appropriate for many lower-end embedded applications. But
> > wake up and smell the coffee! As we witness with the LPC
> > series, silicon capability and complexity continues to
> > increase, making higher-end environments more and more
> > appropriate for many applications. Toolset developers stuck
> > only on MS Windows (and sticking their customers with MS
> > Windows) will increasingly be caught between Linux for larger
> > apps (anyone see which way cell phone companies are heading
> > these days?) and gcc-based tools for both upper and lower end
> > applications.
> >
> > Too bad. There's some useful toolset product development
> > going on, but it's wasted. I would like to see some serious
> > competition on the Linux platform and have vendors to choose from.
> >
> >   Brett
> >
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