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Rise and fall time of capture inputs

Rise and fall time of capture inputs

2006-02-03 by widescreen03608

Hi all,

On the CAP0.3 input I have pulses from an encoder and I want detect
both edges and generate interrupts. The signal is filtered so the rise
and fall time are slow (don't know exactly how long, but surely within
1ms). Is it possible that no interrupt is generated on CAP0.3, because
the signal is to slow?

I didn't found any datasheets from Philips which this is described.

Thanks for help

Re: [lpc2000] Rise and fall time of capture inputs

2006-02-03 by Tom Walsh

widescreen03608 wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>On the CAP0.3 input I have pulses from an encoder and I want detect
>both edges and generate interrupts. The signal is filtered so the rise
>and fall time are slow (don't know exactly how long, but surely within
>1ms). Is it possible that no interrupt is generated on CAP0.3, because
>the signal is to slow?
>
>I didn't found any datasheets from Philips which this is described.
>
>  
>
Aside from the datasheet thing, wouldn't it be possible to use a schmidt 
gate to drive the capture intput?  Or some op-amp crossing-detector with 
hysteresis?

Regards,

TomW



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"Windows? No thanks, I have work to do..."
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Re: Rise and fall time of capture inputs

2006-02-03 by charlesgrenz

The real question is why the rise time is so long. A typical HEDS
encoder sensor is in the 50 to 100ns rise and fall times.

regards,
Charles

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, Tom Walsh <tom@...> wrote:
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> widescreen03608 wrote:
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >On the CAP0.3 input I have pulses from an encoder and I want detect
> >both edges and generate interrupts. The signal is filtered so the rise
> >and fall time are slow (don't know exactly how long, but surely within
> >1ms). Is it possible that no interrupt is generated on CAP0.3, because
> >the signal is to slow?
> >
> >I didn't found any datasheets from Philips which this is described.
> >
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> >
> Aside from the datasheet thing, wouldn't it be possible to use a
schmidt 
> gate to drive the capture intput?  Or some op-amp crossing-detector
with 
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> Regards,
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> TomW
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> -- 
> Tom Walsh - WN3L - Embedded Systems Consultant
> http://openhardware.net, http://cyberiansoftware.com
> "Windows? No thanks, I have work to do..."
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Re: [lpc2000] Rise and fall time of capture inputs

2006-02-03 by G B

I would think a high speed comparator, where you could set
the precise rise and fall voltage values would be best.

Glen


widescreen03608 wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> On the CAP0.3 input I have pulses from an encoder and I want detect
> both edges and generate interrupts. The signal is filtered so the rise
> and fall time are slow (don't know exactly how long, but surely within
> 1ms). Is it possible that no interrupt is generated on CAP0.3, because
> the signal is to slow?
> 
> I didn't found any datasheets from Philips which this is described.
> 
> Thanks for help
> 
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>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [lpc2000] Rise and fall time of capture inputs

2006-02-03 by Leon Heller

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Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Rise and fall time of capture inputs


> widescreen03608 wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>On the CAP0.3 input I have pulses from an encoder and I want detect
>>both edges and generate interrupts. The signal is filtered so the rise
>>and fall time are slow (don't know exactly how long, but surely within
>>1ms). Is it possible that no interrupt is generated on CAP0.3, because
>>the signal is to slow?
>>
>>I didn't found any datasheets from Philips which this is described.
>>
>>
>>
> Aside from the datasheet thing, wouldn't it be possible to use a schmidt
> gate to drive the capture intput?  Or some op-amp crossing-detector with
> hysteresis?

I've done that in the past with that sort of input. I then had a problem 
with multiple signals (like contact bounce) which I eliminated with 
software.

Leon
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Re: [lpc2000] Rise and fall time of capture inputs

2006-02-03 by Tom Walsh

Leon Heller wrote:

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Tom Walsh" <tom@...>
>To: <lpc2000@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Rise and fall time of capture inputs
>
>
>  
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>>widescreen03608 wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>On the CAP0.3 input I have pulses from an encoder and I want detect
>>>both edges and generate interrupts. The signal is filtered so the rise
>>>and fall time are slow (don't know exactly how long, but surely within
>>>1ms). Is it possible that no interrupt is generated on CAP0.3, because
>>>the signal is to slow?
>>>
>>>I didn't found any datasheets from Philips which this is described.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Aside from the datasheet thing, wouldn't it be possible to use a schmidt
>>gate to drive the capture intput?  Or some op-amp crossing-detector with
>>hysteresis?
>>    
>>
>
>I've done that in the past with that sort of input. I then had a problem 
>with multiple signals (like contact bounce) which I eliminated with 
>software.
>
>  
>
Yes, that is a given when dealing with mechanical contacts.  They do 
bounce.  As far as that goes, analog lines can "bounce", inductance.

TomW

-- 
Tom Walsh - WN3L - Embedded Systems Consultant
http://openhardware.net, http://cyberiansoftware.com
"Windows? No thanks, I have work to do..."
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Re: [lpc2000] Rise and fall time of capture inputs

2006-02-03 by Leon Heller

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Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [lpc2000] Rise and fall time of capture inputs



>>>>
>>>Aside from the datasheet thing, wouldn't it be possible to use a schmidt
>>>gate to drive the capture intput?  Or some op-amp crossing-detector with
>>>hysteresis?
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>I've done that in the past with that sort of input. I then had a problem 
>>with multiple signals (like contact bounce) which I eliminated with 
>>software.
>>
>>  
>>
> Yes, that is a given when dealing with mechanical contacts.  They do 
> bounce.  As far as that goes, analog lines can "bounce", inductance.

It was an LED/transistor unit, not mechanical.

Leon

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