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Powerdown and 3.3V supply

Powerdown and 3.3V supply

2006-04-27 by Richard

I am working on a battery powered device using the 2106.  I would like
to use 3.3V supply that I can shut down and a 1.8V supply with low
quiescent current.
I believe the reset pin requires a 3V signal, if I shut down the 3V
supply and go to sleep I am not sure what happens on wakeup.  If I
enable the 3V supply on wakeup this would cause the supervisor to
reset the micro.

I appeal to those who have been here before.

Rich

Re: Powerdown and 3.3V supply

2006-04-27 by Richard

Powering the 1.8 volt regulator and a supervisor IC (1.8 v
threshold)from the battery will solve the issue, I think.....

Rich

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <richas@...> wrote:
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>
> I am working on a battery powered device using the 2106.  I would like
> to use 3.3V supply that I can shut down and a 1.8V supply with low
> quiescent current.
> I believe the reset pin requires a 3V signal, if I shut down the 3V
> supply and go to sleep I am not sure what happens on wakeup.  If I
> enable the 3V supply on wakeup this would cause the supervisor to
> reset the micro.
> 
> I appeal to those who have been here before.
> 
> Rich
>

Re: [lpc2000] Powerdown and 3.3V supply

2006-04-27 by 3gpabko

Hello Richard,
I have such a device. Just before the MCU goes in
PowerDown it cuts 3.3V supply. In this mode on board
remains only 1.8V powering the MCU and a keyboard
controller which wakes up the MCU trough EINT pin.
The RESET pin is pulled up trough schottky diodes from
1.8V and 3.3V rail.
You need 3V level on RESET pin only if you need to
reset the MCU. You have to ensure 3V level after
releasing the RESET pin in order to have proper
initialization.
I am using LPC2214. And this scenario works fine.

Regards
Zdravko Dimitrov

--- Richard <richas@...> wrote:

> I am working on a battery powered device using the
> 2106.  I would like
> to use 3.3V supply that I can shut down and a 1.8V
> supply with low
> quiescent current.
> I believe the reset pin requires a 3V signal, if I
> shut down the 3V
> supply and go to sleep I am not sure what happens on
> wakeup.  If I
> enable the 3V supply on wakeup this would cause the
> supervisor to
> reset the micro.
> 
> I appeal to those who have been here before.
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Powerdown and 3.3V supply

2006-05-03 by Richard

Zdravko,
    This scheme seems fine although I have run into a snag.  When the
micro is alseep there is only 1.8V available.  The external interrupts
are being held high (3V) until a button is pressed and we wake up.
Unfortunatly the Vih minimum is 2.0V so we cannot pull these up to
1.8V and expect them to work.
I could, I suppose, use a seperate low-current 3V regulator just for
the pullups.........

Rich



--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, 3gpabko <zdravko_k_d@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Richard,
> I have such a device. Just before the MCU goes in
> PowerDown it cuts 3.3V supply. In this mode on board
> remains only 1.8V powering the MCU and a keyboard
> controller which wakes up the MCU trough EINT pin.
> The RESET pin is pulled up trough schottky diodes from
> 1.8V and 3.3V rail.
> You need 3V level on RESET pin only if you need to
> reset the MCU. You have to ensure 3V level after
> releasing the RESET pin in order to have proper
> initialization.
> I am using LPC2214. And this scenario works fine.
> 
> Regards
> Zdravko Dimitrov
> 
> --- Richard <richas@...> wrote:
> 
> > I am working on a battery powered device using the
> > 2106.  I would like
> > to use 3.3V supply that I can shut down and a 1.8V
> > supply with low
> > quiescent current.
> > I believe the reset pin requires a 3V signal, if I
> > shut down the 3V
> > supply and go to sleep I am not sure what happens on
> > wakeup.  If I
> > enable the 3V supply on wakeup this would cause the
> > supervisor to
> > reset the micro.
> > 
> > I appeal to those who have been here before.
> > 
> > Rich
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: [lpc2000] Re: Powerdown and 3.3V supply

2006-05-04 by Tom Walsh

Richard wrote:

>Zdravko,
>    This scheme seems fine although I have run into a snag.  When the
>micro is alseep there is only 1.8V available.  The external interrupts
>are being held high (3V) until a button is pressed and we wake up.
>Unfortunatly the Vih minimum is 2.0V so we cannot pull these up to
>1.8V and expect them to work.
>I could, I suppose, use a seperate low-current 3V regulator just for
>the pullups.........
>
>  
>
Either that or use a FET to power off all but the processor core logic 
(pullups, etc).  Let the processor power down sections of the board?

TomW

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Re: [lpc2000] Re: Powerdown and 3.3V supply

2006-05-05 by 3gpabko

@Richard

My case is very simple couse I have only one EINT wich
wakes up the MCU. In PowerDown on this pin(EINT) there
is only 1.8V through a schottky diode. And no problems
with the operation. Yes this is not Vihigh but it is
not Vilow either.
In my design I decide the keyboard controller to start
the 3.3V supply for a short time on wake up couse I
faced POR problems on the prototype.

Zdravko



 

--- Richard <richas@...> wrote:

> Zdravko,
>     This scheme seems fine although I have run into
> a snag.  When the
> micro is alseep there is only 1.8V available.  The
> external interrupts
> are being held high (3V) until a button is pressed
> and we wake up.
> Unfortunatly the Vih minimum is 2.0V so we cannot
> pull these up to
> 1.8V and expect them to work.
> I could, I suppose, use a seperate low-current 3V
> regulator just for
> the pullups.........
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, 3gpabko
> <zdravko_k_d@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Richard,
> > I have such a device. Just before the MCU goes in
> > PowerDown it cuts 3.3V supply. In this mode on
> board
> > remains only 1.8V powering the MCU and a keyboard
> > controller which wakes up the MCU trough EINT pin.
> > The RESET pin is pulled up trough schottky diodes
> from
> > 1.8V and 3.3V rail.
> > You need 3V level on RESET pin only if you need to
> > reset the MCU. You have to ensure 3V level after
> > releasing the RESET pin in order to have proper
> > initialization.
> > I am using LPC2214. And this scenario works fine.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Zdravko Dimitrov
> > 
> > --- Richard <richas@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > I am working on a battery powered device using
> the
> > > 2106.  I would like
> > > to use 3.3V supply that I can shut down and a
> 1.8V
> > > supply with low
> > > quiescent current.
> > > I believe the reset pin requires a 3V signal, if
> I
> > > shut down the 3V
> > > supply and go to sleep I am not sure what
> happens on
> > > wakeup.  If I
> > > enable the 3V supply on wakeup this would cause
> the
> > > supervisor to
> > > reset the micro.
> > > 
> > > I appeal to those who have been here before.
> > > 
> > > Rich
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>
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