The point, which you've totally missed, is that in recognition of the fact that you don't want to have 2 sets of documentation and 2 sets of boards to keep track of, we're asking, "hey, can you deliver stuffed euro boards sans pots, jacks, and panels to save us from having to go through the hassle and hazard of desoldering pots, jacks, and switches, and paying for panels and jacks we don't need?" Check the archives, I did this already. I sold *10* RR E350s versions assembled and maybe like 12-14 board sets of the E340/E350 combined. I sold around 8-10 sets of the E560/E580 DIY board sets. That's it! I think I've gotten my fill of it, and I'm sure I'm not alone. And if anyone hasn't, there are Bridechamber, Oakley, and others providing 5U thru-hole DIY pcbs. Believe me, I'd RATHER have an fully assembled 5U MOTM-355 Morphing Dual LFO. HOWEVER, knowing that you have your hands full developing and shipping modules for the Euro market, I'm asking, what's the MINIMUM you can do that will make most of your old 5U customers happier than they are now? It's not that much of an effort (I will say same effort and LESS hassle) to take a known working Euro schematic and lay it out for 5U/MU. Maybe 2 8 hour sessions and then send Scott the locations and have him make me panels. Once I have the 2 stuffed boards (the jacks are on their own board) it would take me 8 minutes per module to assemble, test and put in the box. Call it 7 per hour. So in 1 8 hour session on a weekend that is ALL 50 modules per format. 1 full weekend end = 100 modules, sitting in the boxes ready to go out on Monday. But even if that time doubles, it's 2 weekends and done. We WANT to buy your new modules. In a perfect world, you'd deliver them in 5U assembled. The current reality requires buying an assembled euro module, then disassembling it, making a custom panel, and wiring it up. Is there a workable middle ground? See above. Now, can you *GET* that I and others don't care about the DIY aspect? In fact, I want to reduce the amount of DIY that's currently required to adapt one of your euro modules to 5U! You wouldn't need to if the Kickstarter thing works. The crucial question: would there be significant setup cost to run off 40-50 euro pcbs sans pots, jacks, and switches, and would that make testing the boards too difficult? If not, great, as it would save us the time and hazard of desoldering the pots, jacks, and switches. I would rather just do it properly and use the 5U format, with the correct knobs, grid spacing, etc. and cover BOTH sets of people: DIYer and non-DIYers. Both get assembled modules quickly. If the 'group message' is that we desire new modules in a timely manner and the DIY aspect is not the #1 factor, then what is wrong with the Kickstarter approach? OK, you need an Amazon account (free and the do NOT spam). That's about it. I've used it to buy stuff maybe 8 times so far. Painless. Paul S.
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RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Paul Schreiber
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