MOTM

Are there plans for an MOTM Analog Delay?  Regardless, do you 
folks thing that the Blacet w/Stooge Panel is a good fit in an MOTM 
setup?  I'd really love to have an analog delay in my setup, but I'm 
willing to wait for an MOTM module, primarily so I won't have to go 
through the trouble mounting/aquiring the right jacks/pots (though 
I've talked to Stooge Larry and it seems more possible than I thought 
before <grin>)

   So, should I get a Blacet Time Machine analog delay unit, or wait 
for an MOTM analog delay, or get both?  Eek!

Also, I had an idea for a uMixer that was really an attenuator with 
switching jacks to make it function as a mixer as well, but I decided 
basically I had just reinvented a multi-VCA.  Hmmph.

-Geoff

>    Are there plans for an MOTM Analog Delay?

Nope.

>    So, should I get a Blacet Time Machine analog delay unit,

Yep. Then see if some nice person on the list will build it for you on a Stooge panel, for a
nominal fee.

Paul S.

> So, should I get a Blacet Time Machine analog delay unit, or wait
> for an MOTM analog delay, or get both?  Eek!

I was considering the same thing when I remembered that my old RDS3600 had
cv inputs... Sure enough, I was able to drive the delay time with a
MOTM-300! :-)

Early this week my pet project was relocating my fx patchbay over next to
the modular. The most fun I had was driving the delay time with the vco, and
in putting some spring reverb early in in the signal chain. Hmm... now I'm
thinking about side-chaining some gates... gotta go play...!

Those of you considering the Time Machine may want to "act soon" as our
supply of MN3005s is getting low. When they are gone, it is amazingly
expensive to get more (like thousands of $$$$, no s**t) so I tend to put
it off as long as possible........

Best wishes for the Holidays!

Regards,
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John Blacet
Blacet Research
http://www.blacet.com

The Roland SDE-3000 digital delay (ca 1984) has delay CV in/out and a 
patchable feedback loop which makes it another great addition to your 
modular. If you can find one, get it.

At 10:59 AM +0000 7/12/01, Scott Gibbons wrote:
>  > So, should I get a Blacet Time Machine analog delay unit, or wait
>>  for an MOTM analog delay, or get both?  Eek!
>
>I was considering the same thing when I remembered that my old RDS3600 had
>cv inputs... Sure enough, I was able to drive the delay time with a
>MOTM-300! :-)

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> The Roland SDE-3000 digital delay (ca 1984) has delay CV in/out and a
> patchable feedback loop which makes it another great addition to your
> modular. If you can find one, get it.

Yeah, I tried this on my SDE-1000 and I think it takes a different voltage
or something... I got the blinking LED's of death and was scared I'd fried
it! Rebooted and all was fine, but I won't try that again. Did you TRY this
with your SDE3000? And it worked ok? Maybe it's the Gemini "power
conditioner" I have the SDE plugged into... (ha ha)

I assume plugging my ETA power distributors into an APC battery backup is
wrong...? Man, I gotta replace everything in here then!

> Yeah, I tried this on my SDE-1000 and I think it takes a different voltage
> or something... I got the blinking LED's of death and was scared I'd fried
> it! Rebooted and all was fine, but I won't try that again. Did you TRY
this
> with your SDE3000? And it worked ok? Maybe it's the Gemini "power
> conditioner" I have the SDE plugged into... (ha ha)

hello all,
from what i remember from the SDE-2000 that i had for all of six months, the
CV range was 0-10V

cheers
paul b

At 3:17 PM +0000 8/12/01, Scott Gibbons wrote:
>  > The Roland SDE-3000 digital delay (ca 1984) has delay CV in/out and a
>>  patchable feedback loop which makes it another great addition to your
>>  modular. If you can find one, get it.
>
>Yeah, I tried this on my SDE-1000 and I think it takes a different voltage
>or something... I got the blinking LED's of death and was scared I'd fried
>it! Rebooted and all was fine, but I won't try that again. Did you TRY this
>with your SDE3000? And it worked ok? Maybe it's the Gemini "power
>conditioner" I have the SDE plugged into... (ha ha)
>

Yes, I tried it out today with my MOTM modules, and on many other 
occasions over the years with a variety of gear. I can use the 
SDE-3000's LFO out to drive my MOTM modules, or I can use MOTM 
modules to control SED-3000's delay time. The SDE-3000 prefers to 
work with 0-10 voltages, but it will also work with bipolar signals, 
you just don't get the results you expect. Try feeding a 320 triangle 
into the delay input jack, enable modulation on the delay, and crank 
the modulation depth up.
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scott@...

>The SDE-3000 prefers to
>work with 0-10 voltages, but it will also work with bipolar signals,
>you just don't get the results you expect. Try feeding a 320 triangle
>into the delay input jack, enable modulation on the delay, and crank
>the modulation depth up.

I have a simple circuit on Larry's site that will convert bipolar LFO's to
0-5 to use the 320 with pedal inputs.  With a couple of changes it could
output 0-10V instead.  Larry's pedal interface and the Oakley Multimix can
also offset voltages.

>  >The SDE-3000 prefers to
>>work with 0-10 voltages, but it will also work with bipolar signals,
>>you just don't get the results you expect. Try feeding a 320 triangle
>>into the delay input jack, enable modulation on the delay, and crank
>>the modulation depth up.
>
>I have a simple circuit on Larry's site that will convert bipolar LFO's to
>0-5 to use the 320 with pedal inputs.  With a couple of changes it could
>output 0-10V instead.  Larry's pedal interface and the Oakley Multimix can
>also offset voltages.

This comes up so often that it's likely to be my first utility module 
(rather than use up half a dozen multimix or pedal interfaces). In 
addition to LFO scaling/inverting/biasing I've had to do the same 
thing with GATE signals as well; the 101 samples and holds on the 
falling edge of a gate, not on the rising edge (grrr).

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Scott Juskiw 
scott@...