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This is my last post about the MiniMoe page for awhile. I have purged 
my brain of all the designs I wished to have considered and have 
uploaded them all. Somewhere amongst all those designs are 3 or 4 
modules that will actually get built.

If you're interested, look them over and decide which ones YOU would 
buy. Feedback always welcome.

Time to start designing!

Moe

http://www.hotrodmotm.com/minimoe.htm

The Minimoe 2U is too simple.  My UEG could duplicate most of it's
function.  The 3U is too expensive to duplicate for an n x 8 sequencer.
Who would want all those set/position jacks?
 
I don't see the point in Minimoe 4U or 5U.  If you're going to add those
selector knobs per stage, you may as well have multiple rows per stage
as well.
 
My vote is for:
Minimoe 8U
Minimoe Gate/Pulse Expander (I think you meant 3 position switches on
these)
John Loffink
jloffink@... 

-----Original Message-----
From: mate_stubb [mailto:mate_stubb@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:06 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] MiniMoe page done
 
This is my last post about the MiniMoe page for awhile. I have purged 
my brain of all the designs I wished to have considered and have 
uploaded them all. Somewhere amongst all those designs are 3 or 4 
modules that will actually get built.

If you're interested, look them over and decide which ones YOU would 
buy. Feedback always welcome.

Time to start designing!

Moe

http://www.hotrodmotm.com/minimoe.htm

> My vote is for:
> Minimoe 8U
> Minimoe Gate/Pulse Expander


You can second that with my vote as well.


Les Mizzell

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I also vote for 8u and the gate/pulse expander (with 3 pos, center off 
switches ;)

Thomas White

PS. Thats sure a lot of dough in knobs, better warn the wife now ha! I will 
build at least one sequencer and 2 gate pulse generators. Maybe 4 or 5 if 
they can be run at separate clock rates from the main clock source while 
being ribbon cabled to the main sequencer.


>From: "Les Mizzell" <lesmizz@...>
>To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [motm] MiniMoe page done
>Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 00:35:52 -0500
>
> > My vote is for:
> > Minimoe 8U
> > Minimoe Gate/Pulse Expander
>
>
>You can second that with my vote as well.
>
>
>Les Mizzell
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The 8U looks awesome. A 960 on steroids? I would build at least one of
these. Great idea.
Terry

> > My vote is for:
> > Minimoe 8U
> > Minimoe Gate/Pulse Expander

looks like i'm in the minority here, but i would prefer a number of
smaller modules... the ones on the page i would buy are:

4U MM (though i'd advocate splitting the mode switches off into a sep.
module, in which case i'd get both the 2U MM and the 2U Mode Switch
modules)

1U gate/pulse expander
1U set/pos expander

if the 8U was produced, though, i'd buy it... though it would likely take
me some time to save up for.

bleep.
out.

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I would buy 2 of the 8u and 2 of the gate/pulse expanders, possibly 
more depending on the status of the SuperMoe.  Are you planning on 
doing the panels in silver or black?  I would really prefer the 
black.  Will you be selling the Cosmo switch knobs or should I go 
buy some?  I was thinking about buying a hundred anyway.
Great Work!

I love the idea of the 8U sequencer, but I think the 4U
sequencer + some expanders could meet the same needs without
wasting panel space for those who don't need 8x3.  Of course,
I'd like the circuit board to be designed with some clearly
labeled headers and jumpers (or whatever) to allow quick and
easy expansion to the level of the 8U monster.

Regards,

Roy Tate



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Another vote for 8u with gate/pulse expander.

This is absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!!

My opinion has gone back and forth between wanting the all-in-one sequencer
(the 8U miniMoe) and collecting lots of smaller modules, but at the moment
I'm leaning towards the 8U-plus-gate-expander option.  I prefer having each
channel of CV knobs in a single row...

Just for laughs, I edited the image of the SuperMoe clock generator into a
simpler 1U clock generator, just rearranging stuff.  I took out the dual
clock features (it has just one clock output) and PWM.  If PWM is more
important a PWM jack and an initial PW knob could replace FM.  Yep, an LFO
could do it too, but there's some extra features, and an LFO is gonna take
some space anyway.

This thing plus the 8U MiniMoe plus the 1U gate/trigger expander would put a
complete setup in 10U, perfect for rack-mounting.

the clock image is on http://www.fuzzer.com/MOTM/clock-1U.jpg.

                                ...Craig

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From: "mate_stubb" <mate_stubb@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:06 PM
Subject: [motm] MiniMoe page done


> This is my last post about the MiniMoe page for awhile. I have purged
> my brain of all the designs I wished to have considered and have
> uploaded them all. Somewhere amongst all those designs are 3 or 4
> modules that will actually get built.
>
> If you're interested, look them over and decide which ones YOU would
> buy. Feedback always welcome.
>
> Time to start designing!
>
> Moe
>
> http://www.hotrodmotm.com/minimoe.htm
>
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Craig,

Good job! In fact PW may not be necessary when paired
with this new system. When I originally designed the
clock, the sequencer it was paired with was the giant
10U wide all-in-one monster shown on the SuperMoe page
as an obsolete design. It had the gate/pulse switches
integrated into the main sequencer, so the width of
the pulses were derived from the pulse width of the
clock.

Now with the gate/pulse module broken out separately,
it's just as easy to have the pulse width controlled
as an absolute time, not locked to the cycle of the
clock. Hence the 1U clock design should work fine in
this new context.

Moe

--- Craig Critchley <craigc@...> wrote:
> Just for laughs, I edited the image of the SuperMoe
> clock generator into a
> simpler 1U clock generator, just rearranging stuff. 
> I took out the dual
> clock features (it has just one clock output) and
> PWM.  If PWM is more
> important a PWM jack and an initial PW knob could
> replace FM.  Yep, an LFO
> could do it too, but there's some extra features,
> and an LFO is gonna take
> some space anyway.
> 
> This thing plus the 8U MiniMoe plus the 1U
> gate/trigger expander would put a
> complete setup in 10U, perfect for rack-mounting.
> 
> the clock image is on
> http://www.fuzzer.com/MOTM/clock-1U.jpg.
> 
>                                 ...Craig
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mate_stubb" <mate_stubb@...>
> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:06 PM
> Subject: [motm] MiniMoe page done
> 
> 
> > This is my last post about the MiniMoe page for
> awhile. I have purged
> > my brain of all the designs I wished to have
> considered and have
> > uploaded them all. Somewhere amongst all those
> designs are 3 or 4
> > modules that will actually get built.
> >
> > If you're interested, look them over and decide
> which ones YOU would
> > buy. Feedback always welcome.
> >
> > Time to start designing!
> >
> > Moe
> >
> > http://www.hotrodmotm.com/minimoe.htm
> >
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8U with gate/pulse expander

Goforritt!

Keith

http://home.freeuk.net/lowpass

I have some questions regarding the Gate/Pulse Expander module.

1. When in GATE mode, does the gate retrigger at each stage? Or can 
the gate stay high across multiple stages?

2. When in PULSE mode, will the output retrigger if the clock 
duration is less than the pulse width? Let's say a 1 Hz clock is 
ticking along and the pulse width is set to 0.75 seconds, then we get 
a new pulse output with a 75% duty cycle on every clock. If the clock 
then suddenly changes to 2 Hz and the pulse width knob/input doesn't 
change, what will the output be? Will it be a gate that retriggers on 
every clock?

>>>>
1. When in GATE mode, does the gate retrigger at each stage? Or can 
the gate stay high across multiple stages?

2. When in PULSE mode, will the output retrigger if the clock 
duration is less than the pulse width? Let's say a 1 Hz clock is 
ticking along and the pulse width is set to 0.75 seconds, then we get 
a new pulse output with a 75% duty cycle on every clock. If the clock 
then suddenly changes to 2 Hz and the pulse width knob/input doesn't 
change, what will the output be? Will it be a gate that retriggers on 
every clock?
<<<<

Well, let me turn the tables and ask you - how would YOU want it to 
behave?

Moe

At 1:39 AM +0000 2002/02/23, mate_stubb wrote:
>  >>>>
>1. When in GATE mode, does the gate retrigger at each stage? Or can
>the gate stay high across multiple stages?
>
>2. When in PULSE mode, will the output retrigger if the clock
>duration is less than the pulse width? Let's say a 1 Hz clock is
>ticking along and the pulse width is set to 0.75 seconds, then we get
>a new pulse output with a 75% duty cycle on every clock. If the clock
>then suddenly changes to 2 Hz and the pulse width knob/input doesn't
>change, what will the output be? Will it be a gate that retriggers on
>every clock?
><<<<
>
>Well, let me turn the tables and ask you - how would YOU want it to
>behave?

In GATE mode, I would like the output to be able to stay high across 
multiple stages without retriggering. In PULSE mode, the output 
should always retrigger on each new stage. Thus the modes do not 
overlap in functionality.