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Yeah, those have been available for at least a year or two. The price is outrageous.
 
The effect of an infinite "Barberpole" is similar to Shepard function effects; for instance a phaser that doesn't "cycle" but psychoacoustically seems to always phase in one direction (up or down in pitch).

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	From: elle_webb [mailto:elle_webb@hotmail.com] 
	Sent: Thu 4/15/2004 9:26 PM 
	To: motm@yahoogroups.com 
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	Subject: [motm] Re: New Buchla Modules
	
	

	--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <knarleybass@y...> wrote:
	> Has anyone seen these?
	>
	> http://www.buchla.com/BarberShoppe/index.htm
	>
	> any thoughts?
	
	Only $1500? Are they gold-plated or something?
	
	I'm sure that they are very cool, but it would be nice if they at
	least put up some sound samples...what's an infinite phaser sound
	like?
	
	Then again, if they put up samples, I'd probably want one!
	
	
	
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Yeah, those Buchla modules have been up there for a couple of years now.
I wonder how many they've sold at those prices?

The infinite 'barberpole' effect sounds just like any other such effect
(phasing, etc.) except that it doesn't "cycle." It appears to always
move in one direction (up or down). You can do barberpole effects using
a Shepard function setup.

-----Original Message-----
From: elle_webb [mailto:elle_webb@...] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:27 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Re: New Buchla Modules

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <knarleybass@y...> wrote:
> Has anyone seen these?
> 
> http://www.buchla.com/BarberShoppe/index.htm
> 
> any thoughts?

Only $1500? Are they gold-plated or something? 

I'm sure that they are very cool, but it would be nice if they at
least put up some sound samples...what's an infinite phaser sound
like?

Then again, if they put up samples, I'd probably want one!

Isn't this the same effect that can be produced with a
Frequency Shifter and an (optional) extra all pass (or phaser)
module?

Now that FS are nothing too exotic anymore, you might try
these setups:

A)  Signal into FS

    Mix Upshift (or Downshift) output with input signal

    Set the amount of frequency shift to a low value
    (like 1/5 or 1/10 Hz)

B) Signal into an all pass filter (you can use an
   ordinary phaser, if you can set the output mix completely
   to the "wet" signal. Schulte Compact A does this.
   And it can easily be hacked into _any_ cheap phaser
   stomp box, too ...)

   All Pass ilter output goes to FS input.

   Upshift (or Downshift) output is mixed with input
   signal _before_ the all pass filter (_not_ with FS
   input signal!)

   Frequency shift in low range, as above.


C) Finally, try the above with upshift/input mix on
   left stereo channel, and downshift/input mix
   on right stereo channel.


Always make sure that your mix is precisely at 50%
wet/dry, for deep phasing notches.


JH.




> 
> Yeah, those Buchla modules have been up there for a couple of years now.
> I wonder how many they've sold at those prices?
> 
> The infinite 'barberpole' effect sounds just like any other such effect
> (phasing, etc.) except that it doesn't "cycle." It appears to always
> move in one direction (up or down). You can do barberpole effects using
> a Shepard function setup.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elle_webb [mailto:elle_webb@...] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:27 PM
> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [motm] Re: New Buchla Modules
> 
> --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <knarleybass@y...> wrote:
> > Has anyone seen these?
> > 
> > http://www.buchla.com/BarberShoppe/index.htm
> > 
> > any thoughts?
> 
> Only $1500? Are they gold-plated or something? 
> 
> I'm sure that they are very cool, but it would be nice if they at
> least put up some sound samples...what's an infinite phaser sound
> like?
> 
> Then again, if they put up samples, I'd probably want one!
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
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I'm still not sure if what I described is exactly what the 
Buchla does.
But you can find it in US Patent Nr. 4 399 326 (Harold Bode).

JH.


> Isn't this the same effect that can be produced with a
> Frequency Shifter and an (optional) extra all pass (or phaser)
> module?
> 
> Now that FS are nothing too exotic anymore, you might try
> these setups:
> 
> A)  Signal into FS
> 
>     Mix Upshift (or Downshift) output with input signal
> 
>     Set the amount of frequency shift to a low value
>     (like 1/5 or 1/10 Hz)
> 
> B) Signal into an all pass filter (you can use an
>    ordinary phaser, if you can set the output mix completely
>    to the "wet" signal. Schulte Compact A does this.
>    And it can easily be hacked into _any_ cheap phaser
>    stomp box, too ...)
> 
>    All Pass ilter output goes to FS input.
> 
>    Upshift (or Downshift) output is mixed with input
>    signal _before_ the all pass filter (_not_ with FS
>    input signal!)
> 
>    Frequency shift in low range, as above.
> 
> 
> C) Finally, try the above with upshift/input mix on
>    left stereo channel, and downshift/input mix
>    on right stereo channel.
> 
> 
> Always make sure that your mix is precisely at 50%
> wet/dry, for deep phasing notches.
> 
> 
> JH.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Yeah, those Buchla modules have been up there for a couple of years now.
> > I wonder how many they've sold at those prices?
> > 
> > The infinite 'barberpole' effect sounds just like any other such effect
> > (phasing, etc.) except that it doesn't "cycle." It appears to always
> > move in one direction (up or down). You can do barberpole effects using
> > a Shepard function setup.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elle_webb [mailto:elle_webb@...] 
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:27 PM
> > To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [motm] Re: New Buchla Modules
> > 
> > --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <knarleybass@y...> wrote:
> > > Has anyone seen these?
> > > 
> > > http://www.buchla.com/BarberShoppe/index.htm
> > > 
> > > any thoughts?
> > 
> > Only $1500? Are they gold-plated or something? 
> > 
> > I'm sure that they are very cool, but it would be nice if they at
> > least put up some sound samples...what's an infinite phaser sound
> > like?
> > 
> > Then again, if they put up samples, I'd probably want one!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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