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Re: clicking vca's

2005-04-12 by Steve Maietta

regarding clicking..   
isn't there a point in the attack setting where the click goes away, but still leaves the sound punchy??  I mean really, how "punchy" can a sound be, and how much -audible- "punch" is lost by removing the click? 
 
I dont have this problem, so I cant really comment, but I like the suggestion of changing a resistor to numb the sensitivity of the first 50 or so degrees of the attack knob on the eg.  Most of us spend most of our time within the quicker half of our ADSR's abilities I bet, so it makes sense to me to have the bottom end mellower (less sensitive) and then as you turn the dials to get longer responses, it could be touchier.  I do remember the eg's having a very touchy lower end.  Maybe a switch could be added to switch between modes..  
 
I like this thread, wish I could patch up and check it out.  
~Steve
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RE: [motm] Re: clicking vca's

2005-04-12 by Paul Wagorn

Nope.   The attack has to be around 4 to get rid of it, and 4 is a fairly
long attack.    But as I mentioned , I'm not looking for solutions right
now, it's being taken care of.

 

Thanks

paul

 

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From: Steve Maietta [mailto:srmaietta@...] 
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Subject: [motm] Re: clicking vca's

 

regarding clicking..   

isn't there a point in the attack setting where the click goes away, but
still leaves the sound punchy??  I mean really, how "punchy" can a sound be,
and how much -audible- "punch" is lost by removing the click? 

 

I dont have this problem, so I cant really comment, but I like the
suggestion of changing a resistor to numb the sensitivity of the first 50 or
so degrees of the attack knob on the eg.  Most of us spend most of our time
within the quicker half of our ADSR's abilities I bet, so it makes sense to
me to have the bottom end mellower (less sensitive) and then as you turn the
dials to get longer responses, it could be touchier.  I do remember the eg's
having a very touchy lower end.  Maybe a switch could be added to switch
between modes..  

 

I like this thread, wish I could patch up and check it out.  

~Steve

anyone going to AHNE??  see y'all there!!!



 

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Re: clicking vca's

2005-04-12 by Jim Carlile

I think this is the problem I am having.. If I back off the attack just 
a little bit I can audibly hear it ramp up and it sounds weird for a 
bass sound.  I'm going to follow Paul's ssuggestion to make the lower 
range of the attack knob less sensitive and maybe then I can zero in on 
an acceptable setting because right now it is pretty fiddly.
-Jim

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Steve Maietta <srmaietta@y...> wrote:
> regarding clicking..   
> isn't there a point in the attack setting where the click goes away, 
but still leaves the sound punchy??  I mean really, how "punchy" can a 
sound be, and how much -audible- "punch" is lost by removing the click? 
>  
> I dont have this problem, so I cant really comment, but I like the 
suggestion of changing a resistor to numb the sensitivity of the first 
50 or so degrees of the attack knob on the eg.  Most of us spend most 
of our time within the quicker half of our ADSR's abilities I bet, so 
it makes sense to me to have the bottom end mellower (less sensitive) 
and then as you turn the dials to get longer responses, it could be 
touchier.  I do remember the eg's having a very touchy lower end.  
Maybe a switch could be added to switch between modes..

RE: [motm] Re: clicking vca's

2005-04-12 by Paul Wagorn

As I mentioned, my problem has been solved in a different way (ie has
nothing to do with my 110).  The problem I was seeing might not be the same
as yours, and one of the many proposed solutions may work for you.

 

paul

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:19 PM
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On Tuesday 12 April 2005 20:14, Paul Wagorn wrote:
> Nope.   The attack has to be around 4 to get rid of it,
> and 4 is a fairly long attack.    But as I mentioned ,
> I'm not looking for solutions right now, it's being taken
> care of.

So there is a way to have faster attacks (lower than 4) 
without clicks? What's that solution then? Zero cross 
detection of some kind? Or the filtering that was 
mentioned? Curious!

- Robert



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Re: [motm] Re: clicking vca's

2005-04-12 by Robert van der Kamp

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 20:14, Paul Wagorn wrote:
> Nope.   The attack has to be around 4 to get rid of it,
> and 4 is a fairly long attack.    But as I mentioned ,
> I'm not looking for solutions right now, it's being taken
> care of.

So there is a way to have faster attacks (lower than 4) 
without clicks? What's that solution then? Zero cross 
detection of some kind? Or the filtering that was 
mentioned? Curious!

- Robert

Re: [motm] Re: clicking vca's

2005-04-12 by Robert van der Kamp

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 23:19, Paul Wagorn wrote:
> As I mentioned, my problem has been solved in a different
> way (ie has nothing to do with my 110).  The problem I
> was seeing might not be the same as yours, and one of the
> many proposed solutions may work for you.

Ah yes, sorry for that.

- Robert

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