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MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-18 by Paul Schreiber

Here are some basic (single A-440 note) simulations of the first AUdioEngine 
application: the MOTM-520 Cloud Generator.

These are not done in hardware, but are coded in 'C' and written to an output 
file (the file "replaces" the DACs). The C code will be ported into Verilog for 
the actual Xilinx hardware.

The demos are us trying various things, the final sounds will be more complex 
but these will give you an idea what we are up to. Comments welcome.

www.synthtech.com/m520


Paul S.

Re: [motm] MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-19 by Alpha Ranger

It sounds very digital to me. Are you going to scrape some of that off the top by the final release? If so, will you use a digital or analog knife? Any chance

Re: [motm] MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-19 by Scott Juskiw

>The demos are us trying various things, the final sounds will be more complex
>but these will give you an idea what we are up to. Comments welcome.

There are some parts of these tone clusters that remind me of sounds 
heard on Ralph Lundsten's Nature Symphonies (the ones recorded in the 
early 70s). I have no idea how he created those tones, nor have I 
tried to recreate them. But that's what these demos brought to mind.

Encore!

Re: [motm] MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-19 by Paul Schreiber

> I just wonder how close the final product will come to the specs shown in the 
> announcement:
> http://www.synthtech.com/new_stuff.html
> http://www.synthtech.com/m520.jpg
>

I'm using the same front panels, since they are made and sitting on the shelf :)


> For instance I'd expect a possibility of individual level control of each of 
> this 8 oscillators.

Nope, that would require 8 inputs and then you would want 8 reversing 
attenuators :)

> Or i.o.w., how would I get this "wooden  timbres" you're speaking of?

You apply fast envelpoes to the SPREAD CV.

> Where's the "center point" of the spread function (picture of opening hand 
> with eventually wide spread fingers in mind).

Where you set the COARSE/FINE pitch.

> Is the wide/narrow switch really nothing but multiplier?

Well, not really. It points to a different set of tables where the coefficients 
are.

> How's each phase individually controlled by a single CV?

It's not :)

Paul S.

Re: MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-19 by Charles Osthelder

Great Paul!

This is what I'd envisioned when you first described the Cloud 
Generator to me.  The subtle settings are really nice!  When the 
settings change, however, there is that "stairstepping" sound instead 
of a smooth sweep.  Is that going to be dealt with in the finished 
module?  Other than that, I'm in!

Chub

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
>
> Here are some basic (single A-440 note) simulations of the first 
AUdioEngine 
> application: the MOTM-520 Cloud Generator.
> 
> These are not done in hardware, but are coded in 'C' and written to 
an output 
> file (the file "replaces" the DACs). The C code will be ported into 
Verilog for 
> the actual Xilinx hardware.
> 
> The demos are us trying various things, the final sounds will be 
more complex 
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> but these will give you an idea what we are up to. Comments welcome.
> 
> www.synthtech.com/m520
> 
> 
> Paul S.
>

Re: [motm] MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-19 by Stephen Drake

Very nice! Personally I find that the more 0's in the title, the more
I like the sound. Will there be a knob for that?



On 7/18/06, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:
>
> Here are some basic (single A-440 note) simulations of the first AUdioEngine
>  application: the MOTM-520 Cloud Generator.
>
>  These are not done in hardware, but are coded in 'C' and written to an
> output
>  file (the file "replaces" the DACs). The C code will be ported into Verilog
> for
>  the actual Xilinx hardware.
>
>  The demos are us trying various things, the final sounds will be more
> complex
>  but these will give you an idea what we are up to. Comments welcome.
>
>  www.synthtech.com/m520
>
>  Paul S.

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Re: [motm] Re: MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-19 by Paul Schreiber

> This is what I'd envisioned when you first described the Cloud 
> Generator to me.  The subtle settings are really nice!  When the 
> settings change, however, there is that "stairstepping" sound instead 
> of a smooth sweep.  Is that going to be dealt with in the finished 
> module?  Other than that, I'm in!

The "stepping" is not a 'zipper' or some evil digital thing :)

It has to do with the 9 VCOs beating and "to and fro" as they spread apart.

Paul S.

Re: MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-19 by Charles Osthelder

That makes perfect sense, considering how close the frequencies are 
of all those oscillators and all that movement.  Now I have to get 
another cabinet built!

Chub

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
>
> > This is what I'd envisioned when you first described the Cloud 
> > Generator to me.  The subtle settings are really nice!  When the 
> > settings change, however, there is that "stairstepping" sound 
instead 
> > of a smooth sweep.  Is that going to be dealt with in the 
finished 
> > module?  Other than that, I'm in!
> 
> The "stepping" is not a 'zipper' or some evil digital thing :)
> 
> It has to do with the 9 VCOs beating and "to and fro" as they 
spread apart.
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> 
> Paul S.
>

Re: MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-20 by Charles Osthelder

Control...that's funny.

Chub - slave to the Engine of Chaos

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
>
> > I just wonder how close the final product will come to the specs
shown in the 
> > announcement:
> > http://www.synthtech.com/new_stuff.html
> > http://www.synthtech.com/m520.jpg
> >
> 
> I'm using the same front panels, since they are made and sitting on
the shelf :)
> 
> 
> > For instance I'd expect a possibility of individual level control
of each of 
> > this 8 oscillators.
> 
> Nope, that would require 8 inputs and then you would want 8 reversing 
> attenuators :)
> 
> > Or i.o.w., how would I get this "wooden  timbres" you're speaking of?
> 
> You apply fast envelpoes to the SPREAD CV.
> 
> > Where's the "center point" of the spread function (picture of
opening hand 
> > with eventually wide spread fingers in mind).
> 
> Where you set the COARSE/FINE pitch.
> 
> > Is the wide/narrow switch really nothing but multiplier?
> 
> Well, not really. It points to a different set of tables where the
coefficients 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> are.
> 
> > How's each phase individually controlled by a single CV?
> 
> It's not :)
> 
> Paul S.
>

Re: MOTM-520 Cloud Generator simulations

2006-07-21 by tontaub

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Osthelder"
<charlesosthelder@...> wrote:
>
> Control...that's funny.
> 
> Chub - slave to the Engine of Chaos

never controlled chaos?  
I love riding on the edge where a sound tilts over and gets "chaotic".
 
   ;-)  Michael. (myrmidon of noise)

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