MOTM

> Maybe we can give this a kick in The ASS!!!

LOL!  Now I'm thinking about that old line: "As busy as a one-legged man
in an ass-kicking contest..."

> Somebody has to go *first*!

OK, so, riddle me this, is MOTM 5U a dead format?  Why or why not?

For me, I'm pretty much a pure solder-everything-together-myself kind of
guy.  That's a huge part of why I got interested in this format.  When
it looked like Paul was going to discontinue kits, I went on an ordering
frenzy.  I think I have at least two of almost everything Paul ever sold
(along with most of the Tellun stuff, a bunch of Blacet, etc).  I don't
really need more of the existing modules, but I would love to see new
ones.  (MOTM 4.0 anybody?)

I'm just not interested in pre-assembled modules.  I'm guessing I'm in
the minority on this?

I'm a "young guy" (33) in Portland and I love MOTM.
Up here we have COntrol Voltage, a store that sells analog and modular synths - but just Eurorack.
I think that my peers, who are buying Eurorack, will want to move into MOTM. When they see my modest system they get excited, because it looks like the Modulars they drooled over when they were kids.

If modular as a format can make a comeback, then it seems to me that it will lead to MOTM making a comeback. MOTM has a uniform, classic look. Big meaty controls. And "no-nonsense" modules. When I go into Control Voltage to check things out - I can't even tell what most Euro modules even do, and then it turns out they are just very complicated envelope generators.


ABRAHAM INGLE 
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play@ abrahamingle.com

Hardly dead IMO.  E.g. Oakley still going along fine making good stuff.

I am of the same ilk, chose MOTM for semi-DIY back in 2002.  #2 choice was Blacet but a) I preferred the bigger format based on what I lusted over when I was younger, and b) the MOTM list had much more interesting discussions.

Unfortunately many of the modules I lusted after never saw the light of day, the DoMOAS sequencer, the dual pan/fade VCA (this -><- close), any of the other CS-80 old crow modules, and the Rhythm Wheel sounded cool.  It would be wonderful if MOTM 4.0 went back to 1.0, but that's a pipe dream.

George

On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Doug Wellington wrote:

> 
>> Maybe we can give this a kick in The ASS!!!
> 
> LOL!  Now I'm thinking about that old line: "As busy as a one-legged man
> in an ass-kicking contest..."
> 
>> Somebody has to go *first*!
> 
> OK, so, riddle me this, is MOTM 5U a dead format?  Why or why not?
> 
> For me, I'm pretty much a pure solder-everything-together-myself kind of
> guy.  That's a huge part of why I got interested in this format.  When
> it looked like Paul was going to discontinue kits, I went on an ordering
> frenzy.  I think I have at least two of almost everything Paul ever sold
> (along with most of the Tellun stuff, a bunch of Blacet, etc).  I don't
> really need more of the existing modules, but I would love to see new
> ones.  (MOTM 4.0 anybody?)
> 
> I'm just not interested in pre-assembled modules.  I'm guessing I'm in
> the minority on this?
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>

Old Crow is currently offering a CS-80 VCO and the other bandpass filter:
http://cs80-com.myshopify.com/
 
There's plenty of fine projects from Bridechamber and SynthCube with more on the way from the latter.  And, as you note, superb offerings from Oakley.

From: George Kisslak <groovyshaman@...>
>To: Doug Wellington <doug@...> 
>Cc: motm@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 1:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [motm] Kick in the...
>
>  
>Hardly dead IMO. E.g. Oakley still going along fine making good stuff.
>
>I am of the same ilk, chose MOTM for semi-DIY back in 2002. #2 choice was Blacet but a) I preferred the bigger format based on what I lusted over when I was younger, and b) the MOTM list had much more interesting discussions.
>
>Unfortunately many of the modules I lusted after never saw the light of day, the DoMOAS sequencer, the dual pan/fade VCA (this -><- close), any of the other CS-80 old crow modules, and the Rhythm Wheel sounded cool. It would be wonderful if MOTM 4.0 went back to 1.0, but that's a pipe dream.
>
>George
>
>On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Doug Wellington wrote:
>
>> 
>>> Maybe we can give this a kick in The ASS!!!
>> 
>> LOL! Now I'm thinking about that old line: "As busy as a one-legged man
>> in an ass-kicking contest..."
>> 
>>> Somebody has to go *first*!
>> 
>> OK, so, riddle me this, is MOTM 5U a dead format? Why or why not?
>> 
>> For me, I'm pretty much a pure solder-everything-together-myself kind of
>> guy. That's a huge part of why I got interested in this format. When
>> it looked like Paul was going to discontinue kits, I went on an ordering
>> frenzy. I think I have at least two of almost everything Paul ever sold
>> (along with most of the Tellun stuff, a bunch of Blacet, etc). I don't
>> really need more of the existing modules, but I would love to see new
>> ones. (MOTM 4.0 anybody?)
>> 
>> I'm just not interested in pre-assembled modules. I'm guessing I'm in
>> the minority on this?
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------
>> 
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>
>

On Jun 6, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Doug Wellington wrote:
> OK, so, riddle me this, is MOTM 5U a dead format?  Why or why not?

i stopped building in MOTM format because i had more complaints about the way my modules looked than purchases.

believe it or not, attitudes like that drive new developers away.
---
Suit & Tie Guy
suitandtieguy.com
stgsoundlabs.com


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> Unfortunately many of the modules I lusted after never saw the light of day, the DoMOAS sequencer, the dual pan/fade VCA (this -><- close), any of the other CS-80 old crow modules, and the Rhythm Wheel sounded cool.

So, I started to look back through the archives a bit to find out more
about MOAS, DoMOAS, Super Moe, etc.  I hope you'll forgive me if I
missed something; there are over 34000 messages in the list and I
haven't read every one of them.  (There are over 1700 hits just for the
search "sequencer".)  Did anyone ever get to the prototyping stage for
any of these ideas?  Were there ever any actual circuit designs?

BTW, is there a better way to search the list than with the yahoo web
page?  It only returns ten messages at a time...

Years ago I approached Dave about funding a Super Moe prototype, but at that point he was losing interest.
 
The MOTM-600 made a NAMM appearance but never went into production. Paul has teased it once a year ever since, but I lost faith long ago. 
 
You might want to look at the MFOS sequencer; Bridechamber has panels.  There's also some interesting offerings from Modcan and (if you can dip into MU) Moon Modular.

From: Doug Wellington <doug@...>
>To: motm@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:22 PM
>Subject: RE: [motm] Kick in the...
>
>  
>
>> Unfortunately many of the modules I lusted after never saw the light of day, the DoMOAS sequencer, the dual pan/fade VCA (this -><- close), any of the other CS-80 old crow modules, and the Rhythm Wheel sounded cool.
>
>So, I started to look back through the archives a bit to find out more
>about MOAS, DoMOAS, Super Moe, etc. I hope you'll forgive me if I
>missed something; there are over 34000 messages in the list and I
>haven't read every one of them. (There are over 1700 hits just for the
>search "sequencer".) Did anyone ever get to the prototyping stage for
>any of these ideas? Were there ever any actual circuit designs?
>
>BTW, is there a better way to search the list than with the yahoo web
>page? It only returns ten messages at a time...
>
>

> Years ago I approached Dave about funding a Super Moe prototype, but at that point he was losing interest.
>  
> The MOTM-600 made a NAMM appearance but never went into production. Paul has teased it once a year ever since, but I lost faith long ago. 
>  
> You might want to look at the MFOS sequencer; Bridechamber has panels.  There's also some interesting offerings from Modcan and (if you can dip into MU) Moon Modular.

Thanks Eric, I already have a few sequencers (MIDIbox, P3, MAQ16/3,
Milton, Klee).  If you want the ultimate DIY MIDI sequencer, I think
MIDIbox is definitely the answer and can be built for less than what a
MOTM 600 might cost.  The MAQ16/3 is pretty close to what I want for my
modular, but I would prefer something more "analog" like the Milton. 
I've already made different bank boards for my Milton so that I can have
different length sequences (bank one with sixteen steps, bank two with
seven, etc), but I'd like to find something that has a lot more power. 
(e.g. what about each bank having its own clock divider/multiplier that
can be changed on the fly?)