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VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-25 by Paul Schreiber

Thinking ahead to new filter designs.......

Both the '440 and '480 have VC Resonance inputs. But, and let's be honest:
are they *used* all that much? One filter more than the other?

Doing this adds cost/board space that I could use elsewhere.

The only patch that comes to mind is adding a Velocity to Res, so that the
harder you play, the more resonance you have. But I think 95% of modular
owners do not 'play' them that way.

Thoughts?
Paul S.
/note this is cross-posted several places, if you are a synth nerd you will
see it multiple times

Re: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-25 by Thomas White

Synth Nerd, check.

I have never found it very useful in my experience. Good option but rarely used. Velocity resonance could be good. Haven't tried that.

Thomas White
Natural Rhythm Music
www.naturalrhythmmusic.com

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> On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:40 PM, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:
> 
> Thinking ahead to new filter designs.......
> 
> Both the '440 and '480 have VC Resonance inputs. But, and let's be honest:
> are they *used* all that much? One filter more than the other?
> 
> Doing this adds cost/board space that I could use elsewhere.
> 
> The only patch that comes to mind is adding a Velocity to Res, so that the
> harder you play, the more resonance you have. But I think 95% of modular
> owners do not 'play' them that way.
> 
> Thoughts?
> Paul S.
> /note this is cross-posted several places, if you are a synth nerd you will
> see it multiple times
> 
>

RE: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-25 by John L Rice

I rarely use it myself. Sometimes with keyboard CV and sometimes with a sequencer row but not often.

 

John L Rice

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From: Thomas White [mailto:djthomaswhite@...] 
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:16 PM
To: Paul Schreiber
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Subject: Re: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

Synth Nerd, check.

I have never found it very useful in my experience. Good option but rarely used. Velocity resonance could be good. Haven't tried that.

Thomas White

Natural Rhythm Music

www.naturalrhythmmusic.com

On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:40 PM, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@airmail.net> wrote:

Thinking ahead to new filter designs.......

Both the '440 and '480 have VC Resonance inputs. But, and let's be honest:
are they *used* all that much? One filter more than the other?

Doing this adds cost/board space that I could use elsewhere.

The only patch that comes to mind is adding a Velocity to Res, so that the
harder you play, the more resonance you have. But I think 95% of modular
owners do not 'play' them that way.

Thoughts?
Paul S.
/note this is cross-posted several places, if you are a synth nerd you will
see it multiple times

Re: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-25 by Miguel Mendoza

I use it in several ways, although never to emulate 'classic' synth sounds:

* Via envelopes for percussive sounds.

* Automating CV from DAW for baselines.

* Interesting sounds sharing the lag processor or inverting it.

Almost every 'new school' filter module comes with it.

Miguel Mendoza.

Synth Nerd.

El 25/01/2014, a las 06:40, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@airmail.net> escribió:

Thinking ahead to new filter designs.......

Both the '440 and '480 have VC Resonance inputs. But, and let's be honest:
are they *used* all that much? One filter more than the other?

Doing this adds cost/board space that I could use elsewhere.

The only patch that comes to mind is adding a Velocity to Res, so that the
harder you play, the more resonance you have. But I think 95% of modular
owners do not 'play' them that way.

Thoughts?
Paul S.
/note this is cross-posted several places, if you are a synth nerd you will
see it multiple times

Re: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-25 by Jim Cowgill

Hi Paul, and Happy New Year!

I feel the opposite; I always have envelopes dedicated to VC resonance. Using an LFO to slowly modulate VC resonance during a sequence creates a wonderfully evolving effect. Robert Rich has beautifully used sequenced VC to control the VC resonance on some of his pieces.

In fact, VC Resonance is probably one of the top 3 modulation destinations in synthdom, in my opinion. VC resonance is a must have for me. 

Take care
Jim
Culver City, CA, USA

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On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:40 PM, "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> wrote:

> Thinking ahead to new filter designs.......
> 
> Both the '440 and '480 have VC Resonance inputs. But, and let's be honest:
> are they *used* all that much? One filter more than the other?
> 
> Doing this adds cost/board space that I could use elsewhere.
> 
> The only patch that comes to mind is adding a Velocity to Res, so that the
> harder you play, the more resonance you have. But I think 95% of modular
> owners do not 'play' them that way.
> 
> Thoughts?
> Paul S.
> /note this is cross-posted several places, if you are a synth nerd you will
> see it multiple times
> 
>

RE: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-25 by Adam Schabtach

If I'm using a filter that has it (and since the '440 and '480 are my
favorite filters, I usually am), I tend to at least try adding a CV of some
sort to the resonance input, just to see what happens. So I guess you'd have
to tell me what you'd use that board space for instead before I'd say that I
could part with VC resonance.

 

--Adam

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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Schreiber
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:40 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

Thinking ahead to new filter designs.......

Both the '440 and '480 have VC Resonance inputs. But, and let's be honest:
are they *used* all that much? One filter more than the other?

Doing this adds cost/board space that I could use elsewhere.

The only patch that comes to mind is adding a Velocity to Res, so that the
harder you play, the more resonance you have. But I think 95% of modular
owners do not 'play' them that way.

Thoughts?
Paul S.
/note this is cross-posted several places, if you are a synth nerd you will
see it multiple times

Re: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-25 by Kenneth Elhardt

I modulated the resonance with noise in my famous breath controlled MOTM recorder patch, to give it a breathy sound. However, it's not something that I use very often. And if I need to, I've already got filters that have it.

Re: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-26 by Terje Winther

Yes, I use VC resonance.

Very useful on sequencer lines, adding variation and movement. I usually control it by a LFO (have lots of LFOs, love them). If you crank up the resonance (at the full modulation point) it adds a percussion-like quality to melodic lines that comes and goes, and when used with lots of delays I think it is very nice.

Also useful on drones, where a touch of slow S&H and/or envelope control of resonance varies the sound while keeping the body of the tone.

Terje Winther

terje.winther@...

http://wintherstormer.no/

Re: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-26 by Jason Proctor

Also useful for provoking a filter into and out of oscillation under voltage control. 

Sent from my Roland DP-2 pedal.

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> On Jan 25, 2014, at 22:12, Terje Winther <terje.winther@...> wrote:
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> Yes, I use VC resonance.
> Very useful on sequencer lines, adding variation and movement. I usually control it by a LFO (have lots of LFOs, love them). If you crank up the resonance (at the full modulation point) it adds a percussion-like quality to melodic lines that comes and goes, and when used with lots of delays I think it is very nice.
> Also useful on drones, where a touch of slow S&H and/or envelope control of resonance varies the sound while keeping the body of the tone.
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> Terje Winther
> terje.winther@wintherstormer.no
> http://wintherstormer.no/
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Re: [motm] VC Resonance: is it that useful?

2014-01-26 by Aaron Day

VC of the 440 res has been tool of mine for years–perhaps not in the intended way however.

Applying an LFO to the filter with ƒc set fairly high turns the filter into a strongish vca/dynamic eq

An example of that application here: http://bugskull.bandcamp.com/track/early-winter-hoping-for-an-early-spring

We needed something for the intro and middle solo fingerpicked guitar part.

Depending on the program material it can produce a nice 3d sea-sickness throb.

Future MOTM filters need VC resonance. Please please.

Greetings from Berlin.

Aaron

On 25 Jan 2014, at 06:40, Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:

Thinking ahead to new filter designs.......

Both the '440 and '480 have VC Resonance inputs. But, and let's be honest:
are they *used* all that much? One filter more than the other?

Doing this adds cost/board space that I could use elsewhere.

The only patch that comes to mind is adding a Velocity to Res, so that the
harder you play, the more resonance you have. But I think 95% of modular
owners do not 'play' them that way.

Thoughts?
Paul S.
/note this is cross-posted several places, if you are a synth nerd you will
see it multiple times