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RE: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]

RE: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]

2000-03-27 by Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)

Perhaps this is slightly off on a tangent, but I picked up a book on CSound
last night.  Included was a 2CD set, which includes some Karplus-Strong
instruments, if I understood it correctly.  And apparently you can port
CSound to many different processors and DSP chips.  I don't know if that
includes PICs.

--PBr
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> From:	Tkacs, Ken [SMTP:ken.tkacs@...]
> Sent:	Saturday, March 25, 2000 11:50 AM
> To:	'motm@onelist.com'
> Subject:	FW: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis
> 
>  
> Cool, I wonder if a PIC processor could handle the job as an MOTM
> module...?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: davevosh@...
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Sent: 03/24/2000 10:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [motm] article url
> 
> well, many years back, my friend jack deckard had implemented it on a 
> "singleboard" micro ( a paia 8700 ) and liked it enough that he worked
> out 
> some of the details for making up a v.c. module to do it. he had an
> article 
> on some of those ideas printed in "polyphony", so there is some info on
> the 
> subject out there......
> even such a rudimentary setup produced amazing plucked tones and if you
> fed 
> real digitized sounds into the memory, it produced some strange effects.
> jack 
> didn`t do this if i recall correctly ( gotta dig out that magazine ! )
> but i 
> had read about others using the technique in a more computer oriented
> setting 
> doing so ( like paul berg formerly of the institute of sonology in the 
> netherlands ).
>

Re: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]

2000-03-27 by Paul Schreiber

Not a PIC!

CSound itself is not complicated (looks like FORTRAN) but the interpreter
is a bitch!

Paul S.

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From: Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) <noise@...>
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]


> From: "Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)" <noise@...>
>
> Perhaps this is slightly off on a tangent, but I picked up a book on
CSound
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> last night.  Included was a 2CD set, which includes some Karplus-Strong
> instruments, if I understood it correctly.  And apparently you can port
> CSound to many different processors and DSP chips.  I don't know if that
> includes PICs.
>
> --PBr
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tkacs, Ken [SMTP:ken.tkacs@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 11:50 AM
> > To: 'motm@onelist.com'
> > Subject: FW: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis
> >
> >
> > Cool, I wonder if a PIC processor could handle the job as an MOTM
> > module...?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: davevosh@...
> > To: motm@onelist.com
> > Sent: 03/24/2000 10:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [motm] article url
> >
> > well, many years back, my friend jack deckard had implemented it on a
> > "singleboard" micro ( a paia 8700 ) and liked it enough that he worked
> > out
> > some of the details for making up a v.c. module to do it. he had an
> > article
> > on some of those ideas printed in "polyphony", so there is some info on
> > the
> > subject out there......
> > even such a rudimentary setup produced amazing plucked tones and if you
> > fed
> > real digitized sounds into the memory, it produced some strange effects.
> > jack
> > didn`t do this if i recall correctly ( gotta dig out that magazine ! )
> > but i
> > had read about others using the technique in a more computer oriented
> > setting
> > doing so ( like paul berg formerly of the institute of sonology in the
> > netherlands ).
> >
>
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RE: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]

2000-03-27 by Dave Bradley

I don't know, but I remember Paul mentioning to me almost a year ago, a
potential module based on a CSound engine implemented in DSP.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
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> From: Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) [mailto:noise@...]
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 1:15 PM
> To: 'motm@onelist.com'
> Subject: RE: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]
>
>
> From: "Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)" <noise@...>
>
> Perhaps this is slightly off on a tangent, but I picked up a book
> on CSound
> last night.  Included was a 2CD set, which includes some Karplus-Strong
> instruments, if I understood it correctly.  And apparently you can port
> CSound to many different processors and DSP chips.  I don't know if that
> includes PICs.
>
> --PBr
>

Re: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]

2000-03-27 by elhardt@aol.com

noise@... writes:

>>Perhaps this is slightly off on a tangent, but I picked up a book on CSound
 last night.  Included was a 2CD set<<

Just wondering what book that would be, and where you got it?  Thanks.

-Elhardt

RE: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]

2000-03-27 by Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)

It's called "The CSound Book", editted by Richard Boulanger.  I got it at
Cody's bookstore in Berkeley, although I'm sure it's widely available.  Its
chapters are broken down into different CSound applications and are written
by people who have done work on the CSound software itself.  The
introductory chapter is good enough, but I flipped to a later chapter and
the writing was crappy-- basically it said "look at the code and run it",
although I feel that that particular chapter was an exception.  I'll try to
check out more tonight and report back.

--PBr
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	elhardt@... [SMTP:elhardt@...]
> Sent:	Monday, March 27, 2000 11:25 AM
> To:	motm@onelist.com
> Subject:	Re: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]
> 
> noise@... writes:
> >>Perhaps this is slightly off on a tangent, but I picked up a book on
> CSound
>  last night.  Included was a 2CD set<<
> 
> Just wondering what book that would be, and where you got it?  Thanks.
>

RE: [motm] Karplus-Strong Synthesis [OT: CSound]

2000-03-28 by The Old Crow

On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) wrote:

> From: "Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)" <noise@...>
> 
> Perhaps this is slightly off on a tangent, but I picked up a book on CSound
> last night.  Included was a 2CD set, which includes some Karplus-Strong
> instruments, if I understood it correctly.  And apparently you can port
> CSound to many different processors and DSP chips.  I don't know if that
> includes PICs.

  There is a nice chapter on plucked-string synthesis in this book I
bought years ago: "The Elements of Computer Music", by F. Richard Moore.
[Prentice-Hall, ISBN 0-13-252552-6]

  Lots of theory and math, and C code.  The book has a large appendix on
cmusic.  I'll have to see if the Hal Chamberlan book has anything...

Crow

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