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Re: [motm] Thank God!!!

Re: [motm] Thank God!!!

2000-05-09 by Paul Schreiber

Sure it wasn't a bad '800?

Check the wiring on the cable. I have seen 1 (out of ~1000) cables that had
the 2 outside wires 'crossed'. I now try to check for this as I pack them
up.

Paul S.

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From: Nathan Alan Hunsicker <nate@...>
To: MOTM Newsgroup <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 7:03 PM
Subject: [motm] Thank God!!!


> I finished building my 410 today. After replacing that pesky TL074 op
> amp I put in backwards, I was ready to power up the module and test it.
> When I connected it to the power supply and turned it on, everything
> stopped working, the light on my LFO was showing a dim green and was not
> oscillating. Of course I immediately turned the PS off and disconnected
> the 410, powered back up and everything works fine. Now I'm thinking
> something is shorted out so I take one last look at EVERYTHING, not one
> thing wrong (except for a resistor not facing the same way as the
> others.) my next thought was does my PS have enough power to run all my
> modules? I only have a 300, 320, 110, 120, 420, 410 & three 800's, it
> couldn't possibly be the PS, but just in case, I disconnect one of the
> 800's and try again, SUCCESS!!! So now I'm thinking I need another PS as
> I prepare the module to put in my rack, I plug it back in, bolt it to
> the rack rails, power up and WHAMMO, it happens again. I'm totally lost,
> just as a last resort I try switching the MTA cable to the one that was
> powering the 800 and it works! For some reason, when the bad MTA cable
> is not connected to a module, it is fine, but as soon as I connect it to
> a module (any module) it shorts out. I am so glad that it was the cable
> and not my module. NOW, what was the reason I typed all of this you ask?
> Just in case you build a module and can't figure out why it doesn't
> work, don't forget the obvious, test the power cable. -Nate
>
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Re: [motm] Thank God!!!

2000-05-09 by Nathan Alan Hunsicker

No, all the modules work fine, it must be a loose strand of wire in the
MTA connector, it is wired correctly, it just shorts out when even you
connect it to a module. (it even shorts when you connect it to an MTA
connector not attached to anything, weird... -Nate

Paul Schreiber wrote:
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> Sure it wasn't a bad '800?
>
> Check the wiring on the cable. I have seen 1 (out of ~1000) cables
> that had
> the 2 outside wires 'crossed'. I now try to check for this as I pack
> them
> up.
>
> Paul S.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nathan Alan Hunsicker <nate@...>
> To: MOTM Newsgroup <motm@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 7:03 PM
> Subject: [motm] Thank God!!!
>
>
> > I finished building my 410 today. After replacing that pesky TL074
> op
> > amp I put in backwards, I was ready to power up the module and test
> it.
> > When I connected it to the power supply and turned it on, everything
>
> > stopped working, the light on my LFO was showing a dim green and was
> not
> > oscillating. Of course I immediately turned the PS off and
> disconnected
> > the 410, powered back up and everything works fine. Now I'm thinking
>
> > something is shorted out so I take one last look at EVERYTHING, not
> one
> > thing wrong (except for a resistor not facing the same way as the
> > others.) my next thought was does my PS have enough power to run all
> my
> > modules? I only have a 300, 320, 110, 120, 420, 410 & three 800's,
> it
> > couldn't possibly be the PS, but just in case, I disconnect one of
> the
> > 800's and try again, SUCCESS!!! So now I'm thinking I need another
> PS as
> > I prepare the module to put in my rack, I plug it back in, bolt it
> to
> > the rack rails, power up and WHAMMO, it happens again. I'm totally
> lost,
> > just as a last resort I try switching the MTA cable to the one that
> was
> > powering the 800 and it works! For some reason, when the bad MTA
> cable
> > is not connected to a module, it is fine, but as soon as I connect
> it to
> > a module (any module) it shorts out. I am so glad that it was the
> cable
> > and not my module. NOW, what was the reason I typed all of this you
> ask?
> > Just in case you build a module and can't figure out why it doesn't
> > work, don't forget the obvious, test the power cable. -Nate
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com:
> > http://click.egroups.com/1/3555/5/_/529958/_/957831275/
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> >
>
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>
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Re: [motm] Thank God!!!

2000-05-09 by jwbarlow@aol.com

In a message dated 5/8/2000 5:43:52 PM, synth1@... writes:

>Sure it wasn't a bad '800?

Send it to Barlow as scrap!

>Check the wiring on the cable. I have seen 1 (out of ~1000) cables that
>had
>the 2 outside wires 'crossed'. I now try to check for this as I pack them
>up.

About 6 months ago(?) there were some power cables that needed a bit of 
tweaking upon receipt due to some less-than-MOTM-like assembly. Paul gave us 
a quick fix to make them up to spec (and offered to replace them if one 
wished), maybe you have one of those cables, eh?

Last I heard, that poor MOTM cable assembler was still eating thorough a 
straw.
JB

Re: [motm] Thank God!!!

2000-05-09 by Nathan Hunsicker

Aftrer some "tweaking" I did get the cable to work, it must have just been
a loose connection, I think the grounds weren't making contact. -Nate
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>In a message dated 5/8/2000 5:43:52 PM, synth1@... writes:
>
>
>
>>Sure it wasn't a bad '800?
>
>
>
>Send it to Barlow as scrap!
>
>
>
>>Check the wiring on the cable. I have seen 1 (out of ~1000) cables that
>
>>had
>
>>the 2 outside wires 'crossed'. I now try to check for this as I pack them
>
>>up.
>
>
>
>About 6 months ago(?) there were some power cables that needed a bit of
>
>tweaking upon receipt due to some less-than-MOTM-like assembly. Paul gave us
>
>a quick fix to make them up to spec (and offered to replace them if one
>
>wished), maybe you have one of those cables, eh?
>
>
>
>Last I heard, that poor MOTM cable assembler was still eating thorough a
>
>straw.
>
>JB
>
>
>
>

RE: [motm] Thank God!!!

2000-05-09 by Dave Bradley

>
> After some "tweaking" I did get the cable to work, it must have just been
> a loose connection, I think the grounds weren't making contact. -Nate
>
>

Don't take any chances here, fix the cable correctly - you may fry
something! Slide the yellow cap off one end connector and pull the wires
out. Cut them off 1/2" shorter. Do NOT strip the insulation, and force the
wires back down over the pins. I use needlenose pliers pressing in front of
and behind the pin simultaneously. Make sure the wire is all the way in
against the back of the connector when you do this. Replace the cap, and fix
the other connector for good measure. Of course it goes without saying that
you must replace the correct wires in the correct pins!

Many of us had horrible problems awhile back when a batch of cables were
made incorrectly. Cable maker was suitably chastised with a high voltage
patchcord up the ying yang.

Dave

RE: [motm] Thank God!!!

2000-05-09 by Nathan Hunsicker

That's what I did, thanks! -Nate
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>
>Don't take any chances here, fix the cable correctly - you may fry
>
>something! Slide the yellow cap off one end connector and pull the wires
>
>out. Cut them off 1/2" shorter. Do NOT strip the insulation, and force the
>
>wires back down over the pins. I use needlenose pliers pressing in front of
>
>and behind the pin simultaneously. Make sure the wire is all the way in
>
>against the back of the connector when you do this. Replace the cap, and fix
>
>the other connector for good measure. Of course it goes without saying that
>
>you must replace the correct wires in the correct pins!
>
>
>
>Many of us had horrible problems awhile back when a batch of cables were
>
>made incorrectly. Cable maker was suitably chastised with a high voltage
>
>patchcord up the ying yang.
>
>
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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