Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**
2000-10-31 by ivancu@aol.com
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2000-10-31 by ivancu@aol.com
I have a TubeWorks Blue Tube that I use for everything from warmth to crunch. There is a two-channel rackmount version that is quite nice too. One thing you have to watch, especially with high-output devices like MOTM, is that you keep your input level to the unit fairly low so that you can maximize the range of sounds within the device. Otherwise everything will be massively distorted (sometimes good). Ivan
2000-10-31 by John E Blacet
I'm curious as to how you fixed the power supply? (I'm sorry if this is veering off-topic...) Regards. ------------------------- John Blacet Blacet Research Music Electronics http://www.blacet.com ------------------------- blacet@... ------------------------- Are you on our mailing list? http://www.blacet.com/mailform2.html
2000-10-31 by ivancu@aol.com
In a message dated 10/31/00 5:13:05 AM, synth1@... writes: << It means no way in HELL am I offering a module with a 250V power supply. >> How about as a D-I-Y kit without the PSU? Sort of an experimenters kit? Ivan
2000-10-31 by John Speth
I bought a PAIA Tubehead and, after fixing the underdesigned power supply, I got a real nice tube preamp. I'm far from being a tube expert but I know it runs the tube at about 35V by stepping up the 9V delivered from the wall wart. (Isn't this called "starved plate" design?) It's not the best sound but it's compact, relatively cool (low temp) and does wonders for overly clean signals.
I would think that most tube preamps are not MOTM compatible because the 10V MOTM signal levels would be too much for useful operation. I'd love an MOTM VC tube preamp! And maybe 250V in the circuit just isn't necessary.
John Speth
Molectron Detector, Inc.
http://www.molectron.com
mailto:johns@...
2000-10-31 by Dave Bradley
--- In motm@egroups.com, John Speth <johns@m...> wrote: > I bought a PAIA Tubehead and, after fixing the underdesigned power supply, I > got a real nice tube preamp. Oh yeah? What fix did you make? I've got a TubeHead collecting dust because of the noisiness and underwhelming sound. I can only get it to crunch, it's not subtle at all. Moe
2000-10-31 by J. Larry Hendry
----- Original Message -----From: John SpethSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:29 AMSubject: [motm] Re: I've got a tube up my a**I bought a PAIA Tubehead and, after fixing the underdesigned power supply, I got a real nice tube preamp. I'm far from being a tube expert but I know it runs the tube at about 35V by stepping up the 9V delivered from the wall wart. (Isn't this called "starved plate" design?) It's not the best sound but it's compact, relatively cool (low temp) and does wonders for overly clean signals.
I would think that most tube preamps are not MOTM compatible because the 10V MOTM signal levels would be too much for useful operation. I'd love an MOTM VC tube preamp! And maybe 250V in the circuit just isn't necessary.
John Speth
Molectron Detector, Inc.
http://www.molectron.com
mailto:johns@molectron.com
2000-10-31 by J. Larry Hendry
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Bradley <daveb@...> Oh yeah? What fix did you make? I've got a TubeHead collecting dust because of the noisiness and underwhelming sound. I can only get it to crunch, it's not subtle at all. My point exactly concerning TubeHead sound. Good for "that one" sound, but not for subtle introduction of harmonics. Yes. Inquiring minds want to know what kind of power supply changes you made. However, I still don't see that design doing what I am really looking for. Larry H
2000-11-01 by Paul Schreiber
WHaaahahahahahaha! (evil laughter) Paul S. always a step ahead
> > How about a module to introduce even-order harmonics, like an 'aural > exciter' module? Rather than going for just "distortion," which is kinda > colloquial for odd-harmonic distortion. >
2000-11-01 by jwbarlow@aol.com
In a message dated 10/31/2000 6:40:19 PM, synth1@... writes: >WHaaahahahahahaha! (evil laughter) > >Paul S. >always a step ahead Good to hear! Of course the logical extension of this is go VC "distortion," and VC odd to even (kinda like through zero). This would really compete with the Wave Multipliers! JB
>> How about a module to introduce even-order harmonics, like an 'aural >> exciter' module? Rather than going for just "distortion," which is kinda >> colloquial for odd-harmonic distortion.
2000-11-01 by jwbarlow@aol.com
I'm really interested in what you find here Larry. I have a PAiA "Stack in a Box" (which neither sounds like a stack, nor comes in a box!) which is the guitar optimized Tubehead. I find I need to use other pedals to get it really nasty sounding -- I find the knobs labeled "Drive" and "Crunch" to be rather misleading. I agree with your idea about this kind of circuit not pushing the signal to go nonlinear, which would be more interesting and useful. I should look at the other commercial products that were mentioned (especially for my guitar) and I think we've previously discussed that saturating the output transformer has a lot to do with the grinding sound which I'd like to get. And of course VC inputs would make this very useful for many modular applications. I think Eric Barbour had a tube based wave-mangling device (possibly VC but not a kit as I recall) which got some good reviews on diy. I can't remember the name of it though. JB In a message dated 10/31/2000 3:42:21 PM, jlarryh@... writes:
>Re: I've got a tube up my a**I own a Tubehead. I like it OK for what it >does (great organ distortion for those Deep Purple like tones). However, >it is not the sound I am looking for. You are right about the (starved >plate design being a very low voltage). However, that is more of an abortion >of the signal than the pushing into the non-linear response area
2000-11-01 by Tkacs, Ken
Good! Good! Stay ahead!! :-) -----Original Message----- From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...] Sent: Tuesday, 31 October, 2000 8:48 PM To: motm@egroups.com Subject: Re: [motm] Re: I've got a tube up my a** WHaaahahahahahaha! (evil laughter) Paul S. always a step ahead
> > How about a module to introduce even-order harmonics, like an 'aural > exciter' module? Rather than going for just "distortion," which is kinda > colloquial for odd-harmonic distortion. >