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MOTM/MIDI

2000-10-31 by revtor@aol.com

All,
being a list devoted to analog modulars, many of us probably love to hate 
MIDI, but MIDI is reality for most electronic musicians today.  Sure there 
are many companies out there who make MIDI/CV converters for us to use, but 
as you know most of these are designed to drive a monosynth from some MIDI 
device.  MiDI carries more information than simple cv/gate, we need to 
harness this power!!  A modular is no mere monosynth with vco and vcf ins.  
Oh no a modular is more than a synth even!! its an fx box a mixer a synth its 
anything your imagination makes it.  and MOTM is by far the best of the 
modulars!  Paul, with all the filters and soon the clock divider, has a great 
attractive set of modules so far to entice non-modular people to incorporate 
MOTM into their setups.  But most people (except the sampler group) are 
scared off about spending alot of money for something that couldn't be easily 
integrated into their studio.  With a proper super MIDI interface module i'd 
bet many more people would be drawn into the world of MOTM because they could 
see the integration possibilities.  I mean, I paid over 200 bucks for a 
kenton ProSolo.  one channel cv/gate..  built in LFO yippee.. RIPOFF!!   So 
why are we settling on using converters designed for old synths!?!?! What 
about todays synth of all synths? doesn't it deserve the best?   
ENOUGH!     WE NEED MORE POWER!!!
so I have an idea.
MOTM 990 MIDI Dissector
--sure it outputs cv/gate...
--but it also has 8 assignable outs.
these normally would be set up to send out a gate when it's assingned MIDI 
note is recieved.  This would be great for triggering drums or any other 
module needing a gate.  These 8 outs could be configured to output a gate 
upon recieving a note-on message of the proper key, or assigned to output a 
gate on note-off.  or assigned to output a trig on note on or off or both. 
Imagine programming a MIDI track for this to control your synth  what fun, 
what power!!  They could also be assigned to output a CV responding to any 
assigned MIDI cc.. knobs, aftertouch, velocity, pedals, ribbons, Kaoss pads, 
whatever other cheesy MIDI controllers are out there.. anything that sends 
MIDI.  
--there would also be an output which would spit out trig pulses according to 
MIDI clock.. great for Paul's new vc pulse divider module. think of the sync..
--Switches on front panel to switch between modes or MIDI channel or whatever 
else
--VC MIDI track select
--Memory to store your settings/configurations (program changes or a CV would 
select between the stored configs)

Sure most of these features are available on other machines, but not all of 
them are available on one. one that would fit in your synth.  one that would 
allow total MIDI control of many parameters.  Think about it!!  you could 
send a program change to the module which would switch the settings which 
could switch (viaMOTM700's or vca's) your whole patch!!  With a module like 
this the possibilities would be only limited by your imagination..
A MOTM EXCLUSIVE!!!!
thoughts?
~Steve
ideas are easy...  I have no idea how to get it to work..  anyone out there 
know MIDI DIY well?

Re: [motm] MOTM/MIDI

2000-10-31 by Cap'n F.M. Bleep

Hey there...

I'm new to the list, with a whole buncha MOTM kits being shipped my way as
of today... oh the anticipation! anyway....

> MOTM 990 MIDI Dissector
> --sure it outputs cv/gate...
> --but it also has 8 assignable outs.

i think this pretty much describes the encore expressionist, except it has
8 dedicated cv outs and 8 dedicated gate outs, all of which can have midi
ccs assigned to them (to my knowledge). *and* this little thingy plus a
patchbay take up two rack spaces, i.e., the amount of space left in a 12
space rack after you fill it with MOTM goodies.

> --there would also be an output which would spit out trig pulses according to 
> MIDI clock.. great for Paul's new vc pulse divider module. think of the sync..

now *that* would be cool...

bleep.
out.

Re: [motm] MOTM/MIDI

2000-10-31 by alt-mode

What you want is an Encore Expressionist.  I think it can do most of what you are
talking about and then some.  Get one of Mr. Bradley's "statementist" breakout
panels and go to town!

Of course, the problem is that Expressionists are a bit pricy but the power is well
worth the cost.  I'm sure Tony can chime in with a bit of self-marketing here ;)

Eric

--- revtor@... wrote:
> All,
> being a list devoted to analog modulars, many of us probably love to hate 
> MIDI, but MIDI is reality for most electronic musicians today.  Sure there 
> are many companies out there who make MIDI/CV converters for us to use, but 
> as you know most of these are designed to drive a monosynth from some MIDI 
> device.  MiDI carries more information than simple cv/gate, we need to 
> harness this power!!  A modular is no mere monosynth with vco and vcf ins.  
> Oh no a modular is more than a synth even!! its an fx box a mixer a synth its 
> anything your imagination makes it.  and MOTM is by far the best of the 
> modulars!  Paul, with all the filters and soon the clock divider, has a great 
> attractive set of modules so far to entice non-modular people to incorporate 
> MOTM into their setups.  But most people (except the sampler group) are 
> scared off about spending alot of money for something that couldn't be easily 
> integrated into their studio.  With a proper super MIDI interface module i'd 
> bet many more people would be drawn into the world of MOTM because they could 
> see the integration possibilities.  I mean, I paid over 200 bucks for a 
> kenton ProSolo.  one channel cv/gate..  built in LFO yippee.. RIPOFF!!   So 
> why are we settling on using converters designed for old synths!?!?! What 
> about todays synth of all synths? doesn't it deserve the best?   
> ENOUGH!     WE NEED MORE POWER!!!
> so I have an idea.
> MOTM 990 MIDI Dissector
> --sure it outputs cv/gate...
> --but it also has 8 assignable outs.
> these normally would be set up to send out a gate when it's assingned MIDI 
> note is recieved.  This would be great for triggering drums or any other 
> module needing a gate.  These 8 outs could be configured to output a gate 
> upon recieving a note-on message of the proper key, or assigned to output a 
> gate on note-off.  or assigned to output a trig on note on or off or both. 
> Imagine programming a MIDI track for this to control your synth  what fun, 
> what power!!  They could also be assigned to output a CV responding to any 
> assigned MIDI cc.. knobs, aftertouch, velocity, pedals, ribbons, Kaoss pads, 
> whatever other cheesy MIDI controllers are out there.. anything that sends 
> MIDI.  
> --there would also be an output which would spit out trig pulses according to 
> MIDI clock.. great for Paul's new vc pulse divider module. think of the sync..
> --Switches on front panel to switch between modes or MIDI channel or whatever 
> else
> --VC MIDI track select
> --Memory to store your settings/configurations (program changes or a CV would 
> select between the stored configs)
> 
> Sure most of these features are available on other machines, but not all of 
> them are available on one. one that would fit in your synth.  one that would 
> allow total MIDI control of many parameters.  Think about it!!  you could 
> send a program change to the module which would switch the settings which 
> could switch (viaMOTM700's or vca's) your whole patch!!  With a module like 
> this the possibilities would be only limited by your imagination..
> A MOTM EXCLUSIVE!!!!
> thoughts?
> ~Steve
> ideas are easy...  I have no idea how to get it to work..  anyone out there 
> know MIDI DIY well?
> 


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Re: [motm] MOTM/MIDI

2000-10-31 by Paul Schreiber

<<delete rant>>

It's called a Kenton Pro-2000. 6 user-assignable outputs. Intercepts about
45 different
MIDI messages. Programmable range and span.

Paul S.

Re: [motm] MOTM/MIDI

2000-10-31 by improv@peak.org

>thoughts?
>~Steve

I have 2 MIDI to CV converters in my studio, a JKJ CV-3, and a Doepfer
A-190/191 combo. This gives 2 channels of notes and gates, 2 extra
controllers on the JKJ and a whole bunch on the Doepfer. With that, I find
that I very rarely use more than notes, gates and clock, and get the rest
of the control stuff from CV's in the modular. I'm no MIDI purist, nor am I
any sort of analog purist, in fact I rather pride myself on being an
impurist in all of my attitudes. This is just what works for me. I find it
much easier to keep track of a bunch of CV's than I do a bunch of MIDI
controllers flying around the system.

____________________________________________
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Re: MOTM/MIDI

2000-10-31 by Dave Bradley

> 
> > --there would also be an output which would spit out trig pulses 
according to 
> > MIDI clock.. great for Paul's new vc pulse divider module. think 
of the sync..
> 
> now *that* would be cool...
> 
> bleep.
> out.

The Expressionist does this too - it has DIN sync clock w/ 
programmable # of midi clock pulses per sync pulse, and start 
signals, and yes, Mr. Moe's super Expressionist breakout panel brings 
these signls out also!

I use my Expressionist sync out to sync sequences to my drum machine 
all the time.

Moe
http://www.users.uswest.net/~daveb2

Re: [motm] MOTM/MIDI

2000-11-01 by Tony Allgood

>I'm sure Tony can chime in with a bit of self-marketing here ;)

And so can the other Tony too ;-)

www.techrepairs.freeserve.co.uk/mididac.htm

Mind you, you have to build it yourself.... but it does fit onto a 2U
motm panel.

Regards,

Tony Allgood  Penrith, Cumbria, England

Oakley Modular Synth and TB3030:
www.techrepairs.freeserve.co.uk/projects.htm
My music: www.mp3.com/taklamakan

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