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I agree. I've had a running Email note-sharing with two friends about it all
day. I never thought that the Lynch version had any positive aspects...
until I saw this one. Less offensive than Lynch's, but also less of
everything else. A big yawn.

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Dave Bradley [mailto:daveb2@...] 
Sent:	Monday, 04 December, 2000 2:41 PM
To:	motm@egroups.com
Subject:	[motm] OT: Dune (for sci-fi afficianados only)

Anyone catch part 1 of the "Dune" miniseries on the SciFi channel 
last night?

Ouch!

I was SO hoping to erase the memory of the David Lynch movie. At 
least that one allowed you the visceral enjoyment of watching a train 
wreck. This version just bored me. Sleepwalking acting and bad CGI!

Anyone catch part 1 of the "Dune" miniseries on the SciFi channel 
last night?

Ouch!

I was SO hoping to erase the memory of the David Lynch movie. At 
least that one allowed you the visceral enjoyment of watching a train 
wreck. This version just bored me. Sleepwalking acting and bad CGI!

Blech!

Moe

OK.... 

My Santa Wish....

That Tim Burton does a film version of Dune.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tkacs, Ken [mailto:ken.tkacs@...]
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:41 AM
To: 'motm@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [motm] OT: Dune (for sci-fi afficianados only)



I agree. I've had a running Email note-sharing with two friends about it all
day. I never thought that the Lynch version had any positive aspects...
until I saw this one. Less offensive than Lynch's, but also less of
everything else. A big yawn.

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Dave Bradley [mailto:daveb2@...] 
Sent:	Monday, 04 December, 2000 2:41 PM
To:	motm@egroups.com
Subject:	[motm] OT: Dune (for sci-fi afficianados only)

Anyone catch part 1 of the "Dune" miniseries on the SciFi channel 
last night?

Ouch!

I was SO hoping to erase the memory of the David Lynch movie. At 
least that one allowed you the visceral enjoyment of watching a train 
wreck. This version just bored me. Sleepwalking acting and bad CGI!

Don't even joke... he's butchering "Planet of the Apes" as we speak.

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Fahl, Romeo [mailto:rfahl@...] 
Sent:	Monday, 04 December, 2000 2:43 PM
To:	'motm@egroups.com'
Subject:	RE: [motm] OT: Dune (for sci-fi afficianados only)

OK.... 

My Santa Wish....

That Tim Burton does a film version of Dune.

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Dave Bradley wrote:

> Anyone catch part 1 of the "Dune" miniseries on the SciFi channel 
> last night?

  Dune.  YAWN.  Go read all the stories penned by 'Cordwainer Smith' you
can find, given that Frank Herbert pretty much stole all the background
for Dune from him.  Much better than the novel that it took Hebert like 25
attempts to get published.  (By _Chilton's_, of all places!  Whats next,
the ornithopter DIY repair manual? ;)

Crow

/**/

> I never thought that the Lynch version had any positive aspects...

Ah, what exactly is wrong with that movie ?
I remember I was deeply impressed when it first came to the movie
theaters. (How many years ago was that ?)
I like the "ancient" decor of that movie, as opposed to the modern-ness
of many other SciFi films.

JH.

Visually it was great, but Lynch "grossed it up" and then added a magical
device called a "weirding module" at the end to save the day, while Herbert
took great pains to make the story sort of 'anti-technology' in many ways.
And then it rained at the end. Hoo boy.

BTW, I have a copy of the shooting script and it describes at the end a
tracking shot into Paul's eye that showed rain, meaning that it was Paul's
vision for the future; but like so many scenes, between the planning &
execution/editing they forgot what they were doing, and made it literal.
What do you want from a film who's director thought it was called "June" for
the first six months he worked on it?

In general, Lynch messed with all of the fundamentals of the book and came
up with a film that was less about the story of Dune and more like someone's
nightmares after having read the book and downing three pepperonis pizzas
before bed. Still, it DID have SOME kind of vision, whereas the current
version is lifeless.

(It's only a matter of time before someone yells at us for this thread...)

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	jhaible@... [mailto:jhaible@...] 
Sent:	Monday, 04 December, 2000 4:45 PM
To:	motm@egroups.com
Subject:	Re: [motm] OT: Dune (for sci-fi afficianados only)

> I never thought that the Lynch version had any positive aspects...

Ah, what exactly is wrong with that movie ?
I remember I was deeply impressed when it first came to the movie
theaters. (How many years ago was that ?)
I like the "ancient" decor of that movie, as opposed to the modern-ness
of many other SciFi films.

JH.

--- In motm@egroups.com, "Tkacs, Ken" <ken.tkacs@j...> wrote:
My nomination for the only director capable of stunning visuals and 
handling epic themes without totally losing character development:

Ridley Scott

Moe

> 
> Don't even joke... he's butchering "Planet of the Apes" as we speak.
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Fahl, Romeo [mailto:rfahl@e...] 
> Sent:	Monday, 04 December, 2000 2:43 PM
> To:	'motm@egroups.com'
> Subject:	RE: [motm] OT: Dune (for sci-fi afficianados only)
> 
> OK.... 
> 
> My Santa Wish....
> 
> That Tim Burton does a film version of Dune.

--- In motm@egroups.com, "Tkacs, Ken" <ken.tkacs@j...> wrote:
> 
> (It's only a matter of time before someone yells at us for this 
thread...)
> 

Well, Perkowitz ain't on this list!

Moe

--- In motm@egroups.com, jhaible@t... wrote:
> > I never thought that the Lynch version had any positive aspects...
> 
> Ah, what exactly is wrong with that movie ?
> I remember I was deeply impressed when it first came to the movie
> theaters. (How many years ago was that ?)
> I like the "ancient" decor of that movie, as opposed to the modern-
ness
> of many other SciFi films.
> 
> JH.

The worst things about the Lynch movie for me - 
1. its totally incomprehensible plot (given the need to depict 10000 
years of subtle power relationships, but the editing made it even 
worse)

2. the Harkonnens were cartoon figures HAHA! I AM EVIL! HAHAHA!

3. the intentionally gratuitous repellant scenes with heart plugs, 
etc.

But at least it had energy. I'll watch part 2 tonight, but they will 
probably introduce a menage a trois with Paul, Chani, and Irulan in 
the name of "furthering the plot".

Frustrated Moe

Okay, now you've piqued my interest. ;-)

I'm going to do my own soundtrack to the novel. (There, curbing it back to
topic...<bg>) Anyone ever hear the Jade Warrior suite for Dune? Not too
shabby. I have never been able to get hold of a copy of the Klaus Shulze
"Dune," after all these years.

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Dave Bradley [mailto:daveb2@...] 
Sent:	Monday, 04 December, 2000 5:23 PM
To:	motm@egroups.com
Subject:	[motm] Re: OT: Dune (for sci-fi afficianados only)

...But at least it had energy. I'll watch part 2 tonight, but they will
probably introduce a menage a trois with Paul, Chani, and Irulan in the name
of "furthering the plot".

Frustrated Moe

--- In motm@egroups.com, "Dave Bradley" <daveb2@u...> wrote:
> But at least it had energy. I'll watch part 2 tonight, but they 
will 
> probably introduce a menage a trois with Paul, Chani, and Irulan in 
> the name of "furthering the plot".

OK Tkacs, I was wrong, but close. Instead of a menage, Irulan hops a 
Guild heighliner to Geidi Prime for a little undercover under the 
sheets with Fehd.

Sheesh.

Moe