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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Foo Fighters live w/M4000D

2011-08-23 by lsf5275@aol.com

Well you certainly have a right to your opinion, but I liked only one Gary  
Numan song (Cars, I think kit was). After that I found him boring. 
 
I like Foo Fighters in small doses.
 
I think M-tron is fine for some people.
 
I think most pop music sucks.
 
 
My opinions.
 
Frank
 
 
In a message dated 8/23/2011 8:56:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
feline1@feline1.co.uk writes:

 
 
 
Are you guys nuts? Numan made some exceptional records in his heyday, which 
 I've owned for years and seen done live, 
but in terms of musical form he  was a total johnny-come-lately, 
basically playing mid-70s glam-pub-rock  (think "Glass of Champagne") and 
playing it with the same instrumentation of  Bowie/Eno's "Warsawa" and Human 
League's "Being Boiled". That's pretty much  all he did. It was pretty 
formulaic.
(Emotionally, he took out the cheeky  flirtatious vibe, and replaced it 
with aspergic misery).
By "Dance" he got  Mick Karn to play on his record and make it sound like 
Japan.

You seem  oblivious to the entire post-kraftwerk electro dance music genres 
that have  proliferated ever since "acid house" went into the charts in 
1988... Where on  earth have you been living for the last 25 years?! Inside a 
mellotron?!  

All this notwithstanding, of course, you are quite correct that pretty  
much all comercial pop and rock is afflicted with a ridiculous retro mania -  
as Andy McCluskey of OMD opined last year when talking about their new album 
-  
pop seems to exist as a perpetual museum exhibit these days - everything  
remains "in fashion" and you can do any genre you want, so long as you get  
your pastiche right and do all the correct elements credibly. 
Although it  could be argued that the quest for authentic mellotron sounds 
seen on this  list is a perfect example of that, chin-strokers on here 
feeling that MTron  plugins etc are insufficiently authentic.
Which is probably right - any  full knows you need to play M-tron twice 
through a plate echo, slightly sharp  of take 1 and slightly flat on take 2 and 
pan them like mad to get a cool  sound ;) 

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  fdoddy@... wrote:
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> yeah, Gary Numan certainly was the  zenith...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotronmadness  <mellotronmadness@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
>  Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:17 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Foo  Fighters live w/M4000D
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>  The Foo Fighters sound pretty generic to me they could be anyone and 
from  anytime over the last 30 years.
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> Although I no longer enjoy  listening to progressive rock music much, at 
least it was new at the time, I  can't think of anything new or different 
much after Garry Numan. 
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> I feel sorry for young people now, at least the stuff I listened to  was 
new and didn't sound like my parent's music e.g Glen Miller. Today most of  
the stuff my kids listen to could have been recorded at anytime over the 
last  30-50 years. My parents hated King Crimson although my father did like 
Michael  Gile's drumming on Schizoid Man. I don't hate my children's music I'm 
just  bored by it.
> 
> Oh God, I'm starting to sound like my  dad.
> 
> And speaking of "Nights in White Satin" it's the only  song that I can 
still remember exactly where I was when I heard if for the  first time: Heald 
Green, Stockport on 18th November 1968 approx 11pm. 
>  
> I suppose most popular music just isn't interesting enough to stand  up 
to repeated playing over 4 decades. I still quite enjoy listening but it's  
really more to do with nostalgia than anything else.
> 
>  Mark
> 
> PS 2 tracks that did stand the test of time for me,  other than a most of 
John Lennon's work with the Beatles:
> 
>  Colosseum Walking in the Park ( live)
> Cream Crossroads (  live).
> 
> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellot
rongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> >
> > The word  "Foo Fighter" was a reference to a type of UFO seen over 
battle
> >  skies during WWII.
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> > 
> > As far as this  band goes, I also feel they suck but then I thought 
Nirvana
> > was  (and still is) an overrated stinking pile of crap too.
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> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Mike Dickson  <mike.dickson@>wrote:
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> > > I feel grateful that I've never even  heard of these guys at all.
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> >  > On 23/08/2011 02:48, Bruce Daily wrote:
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> > > Better yet, why does the Foo Fighter  bird lay its eggs in the air?
> > >
> > > (or, are we  all just bozos on this bus?)
> > >
> > > -Bruce  D.
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