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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Another M400 Question

2013-03-12 by lsf5275@aol.com

K2R... just as good
 
 
In a message dated 3/11/2013 3:54:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tron400@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
So I shouldn't take them to the dry cleaners?

Bernie

--- In  _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  lsf5275@... wrote:
>
> Water. Maybe with a spot of dishwashing  liquid, but keep it super-mild. 
It 
> is, after all, only dust. I think  it is more likely static build-up. Try 
> removing the frames between  uses.
> 
> Frank
> 
> PS. If you want those tapes  really clean, use alcohol. Keep rubbing 
until 
> all the oxide comes  off. 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 3/11/2013 10:49:13 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time, 
> tron400@... writes:
> 
> 
>  
> 
> I'm beginning to think that the backs of the tapes that were  bunching up 
in 
> my M4oo are dirty. I hadn't cleaned the pinch rollers  since I installed 
> them a couple of years ago and I've been using the  same frame for 
several 
> weeks. It looks like the backs of the tapes  were sticking to the pinch 
> rollers. After cleaning the pinch rollers,  heads and capstan, the tapes 
were still 
> bunching up, so I tried a  different frame. No bunching at all. Do tapes 
> need to be cleaned  every so often? What do you use to clean them?
> 
> Bernie
>  
> --- In __newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  , lsf5275@ wrote:
> >
> > You said it!
> > 
>  > 
> > In a message dated 3/9/2013 4:32:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time, 
> > tronbros@ writes:
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > We have never demagged the prototype M4000 in 5  years. It gets turned 
on 
> > daily and the tapes are as fresh as the  day we installed them. 
Demagging 
> is 
> > not something you  have to do in years unless you unplug the headblock 
> and 
> >  forget to shortout the audio box socket or have some major 
malfunction.  
> DON'T 
> > PANIC!
> > 
> > 
> >  M
> > 
> > 1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons
>  > 
> > 
> > _mellotronics.com_ (__http://mellotronics.com/__ 
(http://mellotronics.com/_)  (_http://mellotronics.com/_ (http://mellotronics.com/) ) 
> ) on my  iPad
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 9 Mar 2013, at  19:43, _lsf5275@_ (mailto:lsf5275@) wrote:
> > 
> > 
>  > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  Han-D-Magic
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated  3/9/2013 1:59:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> > _fourtytwominds@_  (mailto:fourtytwominds@) writes:
> > 
> > 
> > How  are the cycling Mellys demagnetized anyway?
> > 
> >  -Sean
> > 
> > --- In ___newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  _ 
> > (mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  ) , "tron400" <tron400@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So  it's probably not safe for general use on a cycling machine or a 
> >  pacemaker?
> > > 
> > > Bernie
> > >  
> > > --- In ___newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  _ 
> > (mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  ) , lsf5275@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bernie, with  a Han-D-Mag you can de-mag a headblock in a minute or 
> > two. But  
> > > > that thing is not to be trifled with. It will do all  kinds of cool 
> > things 
> > > > but can really fuck  up your shit. Get your tapes out of the room. 
Do 
> > all 
>  > > > the heads at once... Power on... slowly sweep from head to  
head... 
> > move the 
> > > > HCM away and  unplug.
> > > > 
> > > > The magnetometer is the  thing. It lets you know for sure if or 
where 
> > you 
> >  > > have problems, and it lets you know if you solved them. No  
guessing.
> > > > 
> > > > Later you might want  to get the Han-D-Mallet... for when nothing 
> else 
> > is  
> > > > working right.
> > > > 
> >  > > 
> > > > In a message dated 3/8/2013 11:48:33 A.M.  Eastern Standard Time, 
> > > > tron400@ writes:
> >  > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > >  > 
> > > > Thanks for those links, Frank.
> > >  > 
> > > > Bernie
> > > > 
> > >  > --- In ____newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:___newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:___newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  _ 
> > (mailto:___newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
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> > > > (mailto:___newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
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> (mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
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> (mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  ) ) , lsf5275@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Han-d-mag 
> > > > > 
> > > > > _____http://usrecordingmedia.com/handmagdebyr.html_____ 
(http://usrecordingmedia.com/handmagdebyr.html____)   
> (_http://usrecordingmedia.com/handmagdebyr.html____ 
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> (_http://usrecordingmedia.com/handmagdebyr.html_ 
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> > > > > 
> > > > > Getting a good  magnetometer is a good idea. I find mine to be 
> > > >  indispensable 
> > > > > 
> > > > > _____http://www.rbannis.com/products/handmags.html_____ 
(http://www.rbannis.com/products/handmags.html____)   
> (_http://www.rbannis.com/products/handmags.html____ 
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> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> >  > > > In a message dated 3/6/2013 12:33:34 P.M. Eastern Standard  
Time, 
> > > > > tron400@ writes:
> > > >  > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> >  > > > 
> > > > > Hey Frank, when I do a search on  Man-D-Mag, I just get hits on 
Mad 
> > > > >  Magazine.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Bernie
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In _____newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:____newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:____newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:___newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  _ 
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> (mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  ) ) _ 
> > > > > (mailto:____newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:___newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
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(mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
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(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  ) _ 
> > > > (mailto:___newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  _ 
> > (mailto:__newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _  
> (mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) )  ) ) ) , lsf5275@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > >  > > > Buy a Man-D-Mag and a humidifier.
> > > > >  > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In a  message dated 3/6/2013 6:54:32 A.M. Eastern Standard 
Time, 
> > >  > > > tron400@ writes:
> > > > > > 
> >  > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > >  > > 
> > > > > > Well, not just M400's.
>  > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yesterday, after  turning mine on and letting it warm up, I did 
> the 
> > arm  
> > > > > > across the keyboard trick to the end of the  tapes and 3 of 
them 
> > didn't 
> > > > > return.  
> > > > > > I had to remove the keyboard to release them  (loosening the 
> pinch 
> > > > roller 
> >  > > > > and pad didn't do it).
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > I played with one of the keys until the tape  wouldn't return, 
> even 
> > > > after 
> >  > > > > removing the keyboard. The tape had bunched up in front of  
the 
> > > > capstan. 
> > > > > When  
> > > > > > I unbunched it, I found that a small tape  loop had gotten in 
> > between 
> > > > the 
>  > > > > > capstan and the long felt pad in front of the  capstan. The 
tape 
> > > > decided 
> > > > >  to 
> > > > > > take this route instead of going into the  spill box. Static? 
The 
> > room 
> > > > is 
>  > > > > > pretty dry with forced air heat.
> > >  > > > 
> > > > > > I haven't ever demagged the  heads or capstan. Does that sound 
> like 
> > 
> >  > > what 
> > > > > > needs to be done? I have an  old fashioned head demagnetizer 
> (this 
> > > > kind:  
> > > > > > ______http://www.splicit.com/images/Demagnetizer2.jpg______ 
(http://www.splicit.com/images/Demagnetizer2.jpg_____)   
> (_http://www.splicit.com/images/Demagnetizer2.jpg_____ 
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the 
> > > > >  capstan. 
> > > > > > Suggestions?
> > > >  > > 
> > > > > > Bernie
> > > > >  >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >  >
> >
>

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