The Mellotron Group

Sorry, but that is an /idiotic /retort.

I cannot cook to Michelin Star standard, but if I go to such a 
restaurant then I expect that standard to be placed before me, otherwise 
I will complain. I couldn't be a politician in a million years, but if 
one does not serve me well then I will complain. And if I watch a film I 
don't like then I will say so, despite the fact that I know nothing 
about film-making.

To say otherwise is the mindless blathering of the fanboy.

Mike


skipsnips@aol.com wrote:
> Critical reviews don't have phrases like "so if you're going to make a 
> movie..."  Since, I'm assuming, Frank hasn't made one, he has no idea 
> of what he's talking about.  Opinions should be well-grounded; venting 
> your spleen doesn't need to be, but it opens you up to discussions 
> like this one.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:22 pm
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Mellotron film in London...
>
>  
> Movies have critics\u2026books have critics\u2026music has critics\u2026there is 
> nothing wrong in Frank having an opinion on the film. 
> Personally I have not seen the film but if it\u2019s about the Mellotron 
> than I think Rick Wakeman, who is one of the artists
> who made the Mellotron famous, should have been in the film.  He 
> burned his in a bonfire out of frustration from their
> unreliability\u2026.that would have been a good scene for perspective.  
> There is nothing wrong in criticizing this film or any
> other and I don\u2019t think Frank had ant malice in his intent\u2026he was just 
> expressing his opinion.  Haven\u2019t you ever had an
> opinion on anything?  Do you have to make a film to have an opinion on 
> one?* *
>  
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotro 
> <mailto:newmellotro?>ngroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *skipsnips@aol.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:07 AM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Mellotron film in London...
>  
> I would have liked to see the film include...
> Perhaps a small sectio n...
> They have to be in the film...
> So if your going to make a movie...
> Do you realize that there's video out there...
> Where's the research I ask you? Where is the perspective.
>  
> I think it's really neat that you have opinions, Frank, but 
> second-guessing someone who has just completed what obviously was a 
> labor of love is kinda cheap.  We're gonna be seeing your film when?   
>  Skip
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>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 11:34 am
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Mellotron film in London...
>  
> \u201cMellotrons should be like Harleys\u201d\u2026\u2026Great analogy Frank!!
>  
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>  
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotro 
> <mailto:newmellotro?>ngroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *lsf5275@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:14 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Mellotron film in London...
>  
> Clay,
>  
> Before we close out this subject, I want to say that some of Chris' 
> points were well made. I too think Dianna should have further 
> investigated the background a little more. It's not just about Harry 
> Chamberlin or Chilton & his partner Irving Talentmaker. There's so 
> much more...
>  
> I would have liked to see the film include more on what lead up to 
> using recording tape to play back other peoples instruments. Perhaps a 
> small sectio n explaining how recording tape stores and plays back 
> sound. Actually, I've always wondered how they get the oxide to stick 
> to the tape. Oh, and how the oxide was invented... who thought that up?
>  
> When one thinks about Harry Chamberlin, who doesn't wonder about that 
> garage where he made his first instruments. Who built the garage? Did 
> Harry's wife (Ethel) ever yell at him to stop fooling with his 
> inventions and wash up for lunch?
>  
> And Optigans... They have to be in the film so that people know that 
> there was actually a shittier way to reproduce real instrument sounds 
> for playback on a keyboard than the Mellotron. Where's the fucking 
> perspective? How else would people actually know that Harry's 
> technology reached its pinnacle with the Mellotron and that any 
> attempts to advance beyond that were just a giant nosedive into a pile 
> of crap.
>  
> God love the M4000, but it is, after all just a brand new Edsel with a 
> better motor, stickier tires and a substantially larger trunk (boot). *
>  
> So if your going to make a movie about Mellotron, fuck Kanye, tell us 
> more about something important, like how Harry Chamberlin came up with 
> the idea to house the mechanics in a Formica box years before Jimmy 
> Moore stole the idea for his Mellotron.
>  
> Was Mattel the only toy maker to try to build a crappy Mellotron rip 
> off, or was Hasbro thinking of getting into the business as well? 
> Where's the research I ask you? Where is the perspective.
>  
> Do you realize that there's video out there of Mattias Olsen playing 
> wine glasses on his Mellotron? Where does anyone thank Ben F**king 
> Franklin for actually playing music on real wine glasses 250 years 
> before Mattias even existed? Where's the perspective?
>  
> Mellotrons should be like Harleys... Only old fuckers should have one.
>  
> Frank
>  
> My Mellotron
> My Harley (Yeah, it's a Shovel Head)
>  
>  
> * I love mine so no one freak out.
>  
>  
> In a message dated 9/29/2009 10:42:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> ecclesreinson@rogers.com <mailto:ecclesreinson@rogers.com> writes:
>
>      
>     --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Chris Dale wrote:
>     > You're lucky I'm not the moderator here. Your sneaky dishonest
>     ass would be gone.
>
>     I am BORED to death with this story Chris. Please take your issue
>     with Mattias offline. Nobody gives a shit about it here but you.
>
>     I will not be removing anyone from this group. Mattias is welcome
>     to post messages here anytime. Hopefully you haven't frightened
>     him away.
>
>     Clay
>

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