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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by lsf5275@aol.com

"I was a grumpy bear..." "I was drunk..." Jeez! Excuses excuses.
 
 
In a message dated 9/24/2010 7:10:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:

 
 
 
I was a grumpy bear this morning. Sorry Mark. I liked the slowest piece and 
 the faster ones were comical.

Clay

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> Clay:
>  
> I will have to start by repeating my apology for my comments on  Mike's' 
> piece, I was rude and awoke the next morning very unhappy  with myself 
and apologised at the first opportunity. 
> When posting on  the list I have always appreciated that although we will
> often  criticise professional musicians we don't disparage each others 
>  work.
> 
>  I don't  think my output is good but I do  think it is important to
> create music as well as listen to it.   My stuff may be poop,
> I would have said shite myself, but it is mine,  the gymnopedies were 
jokes, a bit like Glenn Gould playing Beethoven's  Hammerklavier sonata or any 
Chopin. I set about trying to express my feelings  towards the music, and it 
looks like I succeeded! Â  
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> I  used samples and FL Studio because with my limited keyboard skills it 
would  have taken a few weeks to learn the piece and I would rather spend 
the  time  practicing  Bach. Midi, a rigid beat and unusal   tempi, suited 
my purposes. However to my surprise I did start to relent by the  time I did 
the slowest piece, I did quite like the end result and I did smooth  out 
the trombone a bit. I didn't like it enough to alter the dynamics or add  
rubato.
> 
> Â I don't understand the group's attitude to  samples, the trombone 
sounds particularly good to my ears.
> 
>  Anyway below is my last post. Features George again.
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> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG3e9t8_ns_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG3e9t8_ns) 
>  
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
> PS I am not comparing  myself to Glenn Gould, in my heirachy of music, 
Glenn is playing the Art of  Fugue on the summit of Mount Everest, Mike is 
playing Satie on a mellotron in  Edinburgh and I am arsing about with M-tron  
at the bottom of   deep coal mine.
> 
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> --- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE  <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
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> From: ClayE  <ecclesreinson@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3  Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
>  Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM
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> Mark: 
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> All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron  samples. 
The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit  
annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron  
"terrible", then you post this poop. I don't get it. Have you been at the pub  
again?
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> Clay
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> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
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>  > Hey Ho
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> > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys) 
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> > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78) 
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> > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI) 
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> > They all feature  George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he 
has been dead 13 years and  that by using samples of something recorded over 
50 years ago he is forced to  play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. 
Are the names of the three ladies  scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom 
over 60 years ago known?
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> > After listening to the gymnopedie on and  off for the last 3 days, I 
might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that  bad but I still think they 
are overated.
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> > Mark
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