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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Mark Pring

Nice one, Frank :)

--- On Sat, 25/9/10, lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 11:17 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      


"I was a grumpy bear..." "I was drunk..." Jeez! Excuses excuses.
 

In a message dated 9/24/2010 7:10:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:
  
  
  I was a grumpy bear this morning. Sorry Mark. I liked the slowest piece and 
  the faster ones were comical.

Clay

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, 
  Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> Clay:
> 
  
> I will have to start by repeating my apology for my comments on 
  Mike's' 
> piece, I was rude and awoke the next morning very unhappy 
  with myself and apologised at the first opportunity. 
> When posting on 
  the list I have always appreciated that although we will
> often 
  criticise professional musicians we don't disparage each others 
> 
  work.
> 
>  I don't  think my output is good but I do 
  think it is important to
> create music as well as listen to it.  
  My stuff may be poop,
> I would have said shite myself, but it is mine, 
  the gymnopedies were jokes, a bit like Glenn Gould playing Beethoven's 
  Hammerklavier sonata or any Chopin. I set about trying to express my feelings 
  towards the music, and it looks like I succeeded! Â  
> 
> I 
  used samples and FL Studio because with my limited keyboard skills it would 
  have taken a few weeks to learn the piece and I would rather spend the 
  time  practicing  Bach. Midi, a rigid beat and unusal  
  tempi, suited my purposes. However to my surprise I did start to relent by the 
  time I did the slowest piece, I did quite like the end result and I did smooth 
  out the trombone a bit. I didn't like it enough to alter the dynamics or add 
  rubato.
> 
> Â I don't understand the group's attitude to 
  samples, the trombone sounds particularly good to my ears.
> 
> 
  Anyway below is my last post. Features George again.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG3e9t8_ns
> 
  
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
> PS I am not comparing 
  myself to Glenn Gould, in my heirachy of music, Glenn is playing the Art of 
  Fugue on the summit of Mount Everest, Mike is playing Satie on a mellotron in 
  Edinburgh and I am arsing about with M-tron  at the bottom of  
  deep coal mine.
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE 
  <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
> 
> From: ClayE 
  <ecclesreinson@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 
  Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> 
  Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM
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> Mark: 
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> All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron 
  samples. The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit 
  annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron 
  "terrible", then you post this poop. I don't get it. Have you been at the pub 
  again?
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> Clay
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, 
  Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
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  > Hey Ho
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI
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> > They all feature 
  George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and 
  that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to 
  play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies 
  scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?
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> > After listening to the gymnopedie on and 
  off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that 
  bad but I still think they are overated.
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> > 
> 
  
> > Mark
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> >
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