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Someone posted this question on the Synthesizers.com group. It sounds like a combination of sounds to me. Anyone want to take a crack at it?

"In the song "In The Beginning" by the Moody Blues", what produces that opening sound. I have wondered this from the time I first heard it!"

Bernie

I remember reading that it was originally a microphone held to the motor of one of their MkII units. This seems a little dubious to me though as I listen to it.

-Sean

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@...> wrote:

>
> Someone posted this question on the Synthesizers.com group. It sounds like a combination of sounds to me. Anyone want to take a crack at it?
> 
> "In the song "In The Beginning" by the Moody Blues", what produces that opening sound. I have wondered this from the time I first heard it!"
> 
> Bernie
>

I wish I had a MkII to try it with.

With some processing, I suppose it's possible. Way in the background, you can hear what to me sounds like MkII Violins.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Sean" <fourtytwominds@...> wrote:

>
> I remember reading that it was originally a microphone held to the motor of one of their MkII units. This seems a little dubious to me though as I listen to it.
> 
> -Sean
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > Someone posted this question on the Synthesizers.com group. It sounds like a combination of sounds to me. Anyone want to take a crack at it?
> > 
> > "In the song "In The Beginning" by the Moody Blues", what produces that opening sound. I have wondered this from the time I first heard it!"
> > 
> > Bernie
> >
>

It's nice to hear that Sheila has just been named the 2012 National Endowment for the Arts Jazz Master.  Very well deserved...


http://articles.courant.com/2012-04-24/entertainment/hc-sheila-jordan-jazz-0424-20120424_1_sheila-jordan-hornlike-improvisations-nea-jazz-master



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Someone posed the same question to Tony Clarke on Mike Pinder's website, but unfortunately, he's no longer with us, so there was no answer.

I don't think the Moodies were using synths until a little later.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@...> wrote:

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> Yeah-those could very well be some MkII Violins playing random chords in the background. I usually try and listen to them when ever I play that part. 
> 
> 
> As to the bass hum, I would guess it would be the motor, or a synth that is being used along with the 'airflow' (Well-that's what I call it anyway) sound....
> 
> They used just the 'airflow' sound again on 'Every Good Boy Deserves Favor' on 'My Song' at the end of the album.
> 
> A very interesting question, since it is a ethereal-restfull sound to my ears. :) 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >I wish I had a MkII to try it with.
> 
> 
> >With some processing, I suppose it's possible. Way in the background, you can hear what to me sounds like MkII Violins.
> 
> >Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Sean" <fourtytwominds@> wrote:
> >
> > I remember reading that it was originally a microphone held to the motor of one of their MkII units. This seems a little dubious to me though as I listen to it.
> > 
> > -Sean
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Someone posted this question on the Synthesizers.com group. It sounds like a combination of sounds to me. Anyone want to take a crack at it?
> > > 
> > > "In the song "In The Beginning" by the Moody Blues", what produces that opening sound. I have wondered this from the time I first heard it!"
> > > 
> > > Bernie
> > >
> >
>

Hi all-
   If I had to guess, Mike Pinder probably recorded the motor noise, then played it back at a different speed or half-speed.  If a dynamic mic was used, it could've picked up all sorts of electronic noise from the motor, including the high-pitched whine.  It would also make sense that the recording was a multitrack mixture of many sounds, including the low-level MK2 violins.
   I wonder what the sound was supposed to represent.  Someone waking up with ears ringing from an acid dream after a rock concert?  A realization of self after the incident?
  The high-pitched whine is much like the tinnitus I live with all the time.
 
  -Bruce D.
 
 

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 From: tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:56 AM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody Blues (Threshold)
  

 
   
 
I wish I had a MkII to try it with.

With some processing, I suppose it's possible. Way in the background, you can hear what to me sounds like MkII Violins.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Sean" <fourtytwominds@...> wrote:

>
> I remember reading that it was originally a microphone held to the motor of one of their MkII units. This seems a little dubious to me though as I listen to it.
> 
> -Sean
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > Someone posted this question on the Synthesizers.com group. It sounds like a combination of sounds to me. Anyone want to take a crack at it?
> > 
> > "In the song "In The Beginning" by the Moody Blues", what produces that opening sound. I have wondered this from the time I first heard it!"
> > 
> > Bernie
> >
>

Mine makes me hear a sound like a forest full of cicadas and crickets  most 
of the time. It's a bit better now that I no longer suffer from  
hypertension.
 
Frank
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/3/2012 1:26:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
hammonddave2004@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
I wish tinitus sounded that good.  
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
 
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From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> 
Sender: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 10:20:35 -0700 (PDT)
To:  newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody  Blues 
(Threshold)



 
Hi all-
   If I had to guess, Mike Pinder probably recorded the  motor noise, then 
played it back at a different speed or half-speed.  If  a dynamic mic was 
used, it could've picked up all sorts of electronic noise  from the motor, 
including the high-pitched whine.  It would also make  sense that the recording 
was a multitrack mixture of many sounds, including  the low-level MK2 
violins.
   I wonder what the sound was supposed to  represent.  Someone waking up 
with ears ringing from an acid dream  after a rock concert?  A realization of 
self after the  incident?
  The high-pitched whine is much like the tinnitus I live with  all the 
time.
 
  -Bruce D.
 



 
 

From:  tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012  7:56 AM
Subject:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody Blues  
(Threshold)



 
 
I wish I had a MkII to try it with.

With some processing, I  suppose it's possible. Way in the background, you 
can hear what to me sounds  like MkII Violins.

Bernie

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  "Sean" <fourtytwominds@...> wrote:
>
> I remember reading  that it was originally a microphone held to the motor 
of one of their MkII  units. This seems a little dubious to me though as I 
listen to it.
>  
> -Sean
> 
> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  "tron400" <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > Someone posted  this question on the _Synthesizers.com_ 
(http://synthesizers.com/)  group. It  sounds like a combination of sounds to me. Anyone 
want to take a crack at  it?
> > 
> > "In the song "In The Beginning" by the Moody  Blues", what produces 
that opening sound. I have wondered this from the time I  first heard it!"

> > 
> > Bernie
>  >
>

Hmmmm....
Didn't Ten Years After try and do the same thing in the first 25 seconds of this album?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwk9SvdaLk
 
I'd like to hear a mash up of this, with Graeme Edge doing the "One of these days boy........"

 

--- On Thu, 5/3/12, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody Blues (Threshold)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 10:15 PM



  



Sorry I didn't recognize the name of this.

If you're talking about the beginning and close of Threshold Of A Dream, yes it the sound and whine of the Mellotron MK II along with high strings played in various chords.

It's a very spacey sound. I think it would make a great choice as a new Mellotron  sound 
 - you could have the whine and noise on each key with background high violins in the key that you are playing.

It would be an interesting experiment.


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:43 AM, <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:


  




Mine makes me hear a sound like a forest full of cicadas and crickets most of the time. It's a bit better now that I no longer suffer from hypertension.
 
Frank


 
 

In a message dated 5/3/2012 1:26:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hammonddave2004@yahoo.com writes:
  

I wish tinitus sounded that good. 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> 
Sender: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 10:20:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody Blues (Threshold)

  



Hi all-
   If I had to guess, Mike Pinder probably recorded the motor noise, then played it back at a different speed or half-speed.  If a dynamic mic was used, it could've picked up all sorts of electronic noise from the motor, including the high-pitched whine.  It would also make sense that the recording was a multitrack mixture of many sounds, including the low-level MK2 violins.
   I wonder what the sound was supposed to represent.  Someone waking up with ears ringing from an acid dream after a rock concert?  A realization of self after the incident?
  The high-pitched whine is much like the tinnitus I live with all the time.
 
  -Bruce D.
 





From: tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:56 AM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody Blues (Threshold)



  

I wish I had a MkII to try it with.

With some processing, I suppose it's possible. Way in the background, you can hear what to me sounds like MkII Violins.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Sean" <fourtytwominds@...> wrote:

>
> I remember reading that it was originally a microphone held to the motor of one of their MkII units. This seems a little dubious to me though as I listen to it.
> 
> -Sean
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > Someone posted this question on the Synthesizers.com group. It sounds like a combination of sounds to me. Anyone want to take a crack at it?
> > 
> > "In the song "In The Beginning" by the Moody Blues", what produces that opening sound. I have wondered this from the time I first heard it!"
> > 
> > Bernie
> >
>

Here's a snippet on recording the above:

 
M
 
Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 

_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
MELLOTRONICS M3000HD for iPad

I did not know that. 
 
Must be that sounds of color/between the eys and ears I was was hearing about....

--- On Sat, 5/5/12, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody Blues (Threshold)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 5, 2012, 10:57 AM



  



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise

Oh there's a load of Brown noise out there!


--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...> wrote:

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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise
>

I was fishing around in my memory's hoard, and I must have misplaced that  
bit of information. :-/
 
 
In a message dated 5/5/2012 11:40:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:

 
 
 
I did not know that. 
 
Must be that sounds of color/between the eys and ears I was was  hearing 
about....

--- On Sat, 5/5/12, Mike Dickson  <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

From:  Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody Blues  
(Threshold)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date:  Saturday, May 5, 2012, 10:57 AM


 
 
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise)

I'm sitting here with my dogs. There's a load of brown noise in here too.  
And brown smell. Time to go put them out.
 
 
In a message dated 5/5/2012 3:41:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:

 
 
 
Oh there's a load of Brown noise out there!

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...> wrote:
>
> _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise) 
>

It's the Departure of those brain cells, as we get older....

--- On Sat, 5/5/12, lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody Blues (Threshold)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 5, 2012, 4:46 PM



  




I was fishing around in my memory's hoard, and I must have misplaced that bit of information. :-/
 

In a message dated 5/5/2012 11:40:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jandjstrz@verizon.net writes:
  






I did not know that. 
 
Must be that sounds of color/between the eys and ears I was was hearing about....

--- On Sat, 5/5/12, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: "In The Beginning" - Moody Blues (Threshold)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 5, 2012, 10:57 AM



  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise

Hmm...wish I could see it.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:

>
> Here's a snippet on recording the above:
> 
>  
> M
>  
> Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic 
> 
> _www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
> MELLOTRONICS M3000HD for iPad
>