The Mellotron Group

Very cool Andy....well done!

Cheers,

Gary

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 6:49 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Epitaph new version with Gregs vocal


As a youngster, I remember hearing Epitaph for the first time and, like so many others here, this seminal moment started my love affair with the Mellotron.
As some of you know, I re-recorded the song based on the original arrangement a few months ago using my own voice on lead vocal. (no substitute for the great performance by Greg Lake sadly).
However, about a week ago I discovered a dodgy YouTube video containing the isolated vocal by GL, and it got me wondering would if it would fit, or could I make it fit without use of varispeed and other gimmicks?mp poor mp3
Well, I'm pleased to report that the finished track is here...

https://soundcloud.com/andy-kinch/andy-kinch-epitaph-mix-11-mastered/s-TlYth

njoynjoyobvios
Hope you like it.

Andy K

Andy Kinch
kinchmusic@aol.com<mailto:kinchmusic@aol.com>

Apologies for my previous email. Dont know what happened to cause the text problems.

Hihi everyone.

Any chance to repost the link where you found the GL Vox file?

Thanks in advance.

Tee.

It's on YouTube. (If it's still there) search for Epitaph Greg Lake Isolated vocal.
Cheers, and thanks for the nice comments guys.
AK

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> On 4 Feb 2015, at 00:45, "john barrick barrickjohn262@gmail.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Very nicely done, Andy!
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>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:07 PM, xp_sucks@hotmail.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Hihi everyone.
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>> Any chance to repost the link where you found the GL Vox file?
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>> Thanks in advance.
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>> Tee.
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> -- 
> john barrick
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> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>

Tee, I did search for the original source file to work with, as the YouTube version isn't great. (Lo res mp3). 
Also, it has been severely re-edited, so needed re-timing to compensate for the speed variables. The other problem, which I'm sure would also be on the source file, is that Fripp's guitar harmonics are all over the vocal on the bridge section, and there's brass on the outro, (which I was cunningly able to blend with my new take). There were also some nasty compression artifacts which are still there if you listen carefully. I did what I could to filter them out.
Boyhood fantasy drove me on to complete it with the limited technology at my disposal. It took an age! I was determined not to use any form of vari-speed or auto tune. Thankfully the original reverb had been preserved, so at least I didn't have to address that. In fact, I added a bit more on the choruses.
Cheers.
Andy K

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> On 4 Feb 2015, at 00:07, "xp_sucks@hotmail.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hihi everyone.
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> Any chance to repost the link where you found the GL Vox file?
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> Thanks in advance.
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> Tee.
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Great job, Andy !  I also liked the version with your vocals.

I had the same feelings when I was a youngster...

Robert

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On Mon, 2/2/15, Gary Brumm gabru@comsec.net [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Epitaph new version with Gregs vocal
 To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
 Date: Monday, February 2, 2015, 11:35 AM


 
 Very cool Andy….well
 done! 
    
 Cheers, 
    
 Gary 
    
 
 
 From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
 
 
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 6:49 AM
 
 To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
 
 Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Epitaph new version with
 Gregs vocal 

 
 
 As a youngster, I remember hearing Epitaph for the first time
 and, like so many others here, this seminal moment started
 my love affair with the Mellotron.
 
 As some of you know, I re-recorded the song based on the
 original arrangement a few months ago using my own voice on
 lead vocal. (no substitute for the great performance by Greg
 Lake sadly).
 
 However, about a week ago I discovered a dodgy YouTube video
 containing the isolated vocal by GL, and it got me wondering
 would if it would fit, or could I make it fit without use of varispeed and other
 gimmicks?mp poor mp3
 
 Well, I'm pleased to report that the finished track is here...
 
 
 https://soundcloud.com/andy-kinch/andy-kinch-epitaph-mix-11-mastered/s-TlYth
 
 
 
 njoynjoyobvios
 
 Hope you like it.
 
 
 
 Andy K 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 Andy Kinch
 
 kinchmusic@aol.com
 
 
 
 Apologies for my previous email. Dont know what happened to
 cause the text problems.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 #yiv4497473733 #yiv4497473733 --

Except that if you listen closely you can hear the crappy mp3 compression artifacts all over the vocal. Shame I couldn't access the master! 
Anyone have any ideas on how I could overcome the copyright situation on YouTube? Fair useage I think it's called.
This project didn't even occur to me until I saw some guy post the acapella vocal on YouTube. (I wonder how he got it?). Then my brain went into overdrive.....
A 

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> On 8 Feb 2015, at 17:33, "Hank Smith millardnews@gmail.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Should have just said, "I called up my good friend Greg to add vocals."  No one would have known!
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On 02/08/2015 10:55 AM, Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com 
[newmellotrongroup] wrote:
> Except that if you listen closely you can hear the crappy mp3
> compression artifacts all over the vocal. Shame I couldn't access the
> master!
> Anyone have any ideas on how I could overcome the copyright situation on
> YouTube? Fair useage I think it's called.
> This project didn't even occur to me until I saw some guy post the
> acapella vocal on YouTube. (I wonder how he got it?). Then my brain went
> into overdrive.....
> A

Did you try emailing the guy who posted the isolated vocal to see if he 
has a higher res version?

-- 
SDM a 21st century schizoid man in SoCal
Systems Theory website www.systemstheory.net
Through The Looking Glass radio show at www.deepnuggets.com

I didn't in the end. Having now finished it, even if I did have a higher res version, it would mean a hell of a lot of work re-timing it all over again, remixing etc. pretty pleased with the final result actually. Shame I'm not able to let the big wide world hear it.

Andy Kinch
kinchmusic@aol.com

On Friday, 6 March 2015, Steven Davies-Morris sdavmor@systemstheory.net [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

On 02/08/2015 10:55 AM, Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com 
[newmellotrongroup] wrote:
> Except that if you listen closely you can hear the crappy mp3
> compression artifacts all over the vocal. Shame I couldn't access the
> master!
> Anyone have any ideas on how I could overcome the copyright situation on
> YouTube? Fair useage I think it's called.
> This project didn't even occur to me until I saw some guy post the
> acapella vocal on YouTube. (I wonder how he got it?). Then my brain went
> into overdrive.....
> A

Did you try emailing the guy who posted the isolated vocal to see if he 
has a higher res version?

-- 
SDM a 21st century schizoid man in SoCal
Systems Theory website www.systemstheory.net
Through The Looking Glass radio show at www.deepnuggets.com

Actually, I'll post the finished version on SoundCloud in a couple of days for those who are interested.

Best to all.

Andy Kinch
kinchmusic@aol.com

On Saturday, 7 March 2015, Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I didn't in the end. Having now finished it, even if I did have a higher res version, it would mean a hell of a lot of work re-timing it all over again, remixing etc. pretty pleased with the final result actually. Shame I'm not able to let the big wide world hear it.


Andy Kinch
kinchmusic@aol.com 

On Friday, 6 March 2015, Steven Davies-Morris sdavmor@systemstheory.net [newmellotrongroup] < newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
On 02/08/2015 10:55 AM, Andy Kinch kinchmusic@aol.com 
[newmellotrongroup] wrote: 
> Except that if you listen closely you can hear the crappy mp3 
> compression artifacts all over the vocal. Shame I couldn't access the 
> master! 
> Anyone have any ideas on how I could overcome the copyright situation on 
> YouTube? Fair useage I think it's called. 
> This project didn't even occur to me until I saw some guy post the 
> acapella vocal on YouTube. (I wonder how he got it?). Then my brain went 
> into overdrive..... 
> A 

Did you try emailing the guy who posted the isolated vocal to see if he 
has a higher res version? 

-- 
SDM a 21st century schizoid man in SoCal 
Systems Theory website www.systemstheory.net 
Through The Looking Glass radio show at www.deepnuggets.com