The Mellotron Group

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdK_uYu5G8Y

Looks like it.
I see the Dalek is back on the home page and it's gone
very quiet.

Mark
--- Bernie <kornowicz@cox.net> wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdK_uYu5G8Y
> 
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> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: kornowicz@cox.net
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:12:44 +0000
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] SFX?
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdK_uYu5G8Y
> 
> 
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It is an SFX console, obviously a rare black one. I know about this
one as I have played with it for a few hours about 5-6 years ago. It
is one a few that were painted black orinigally before they started
with the standard BBC grey finish. This one was used at ATV studios in
the UK and was the one used on "Emergency ward 10", a popular hospital
drama in the 60's. It had about 6 specially made up tapes in amongst
the rest which were a different colour and these had hospital type
sounds on that were not standard. The place in the video clip is the
National Media Museum's storage facility in Blackdyke Mill near
Bradford, Yorkshire. When I saw it it had a poorly left hand cycling
motor that had burnt out. Probably had it's clutch over tightened
which can jam the gearbox. The curator told me at the time they were
planning to display it but had not yet thought of a context -
apparently they still haven't.

John B


--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Bernie" <kornowicz@...> wrote:

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdK_uYu5G8Y
>

A shame that such a beauty is relegated to a museum. I'm sure there 
are plenty of folks here that could give it a better home.

Bernie

"Do a little dance,
 Make a little love,
 Get down tonight,
 Get down tonight."
-- KC and the Sunshine Band


--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "John Beresford" 
<j.k.beresford@...> wrote:
>
> It is an SFX console, obviously a rare black one. I know about this
> one as I have played with it for a few hours about 5-6 years ago. It
> is one a few that were painted black orinigally before they started
> with the standard BBC grey finish. This one was used at ATV studios 
in
> the UK and was the one used on "Emergency ward 10", a popular 
hospital
> drama in the 60's. It had about 6 specially made up tapes in amongst
> the rest which were a different colour and these had hospital type
> sounds on that were not standard. The place in the video clip is the
> National Media Museum's storage facility in Blackdyke Mill near
> Bradford, Yorkshire. When I saw it it had a poorly left hand cycling
> motor that had burnt out. Probably had it's clutch over tightened
> which can jam the gearbox. The curator told me at the time they were
> planning to display it but had not yet thought of a context -
> apparently they still haven't.
> 
> John B
> 
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Bernie" <kornowicz@> 
wrote:

> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdK_uYu5G8Y
> >
>

I did try to convice them of that - but to no avail!

John

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Bernie" <kornowicz@...> wrote:

>
> A shame that such a beauty is relegated to a museum. I'm sure there 
> are plenty of folks here that could give it a better home.
> 
> Bernie
> 
> "Do a little dance,
>  Make a little love,
>  Get down tonight,
>  Get down tonight."
> -- KC and the Sunshine Band
> 
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "John Beresford" 
> <j.k.beresford@> wrote:
> >
> > It is an SFX console, obviously a rare black one. I know about this
> > one as I have played with it for a few hours about 5-6 years ago. It
> > is one a few that were painted black orinigally before they started
> > with the standard BBC grey finish. This one was used at ATV studios 
> in
> > the UK and was the one used on "Emergency ward 10", a popular 
> hospital
> > drama in the 60's. It had about 6 specially made up tapes in amongst
> > the rest which were a different colour and these had hospital type
> > sounds on that were not standard. The place in the video clip is the
> > National Media Museum's storage facility in Blackdyke Mill near
> > Bradford, Yorkshire. When I saw it it had a poorly left hand cycling
> > motor that had burnt out. Probably had it's clutch over tightened
> > which can jam the gearbox. The curator told me at the time they were
> > planning to display it but had not yet thought of a context -
> > apparently they still haven't.
> > 
> > John B
> > 
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Bernie" <kornowicz@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdK_uYu5G8Y
> > >
> >
>

Yes, It is a SFX console loaded with the original sound effects. The SFX  was 
a "foley machine" using analog tape built for the BBC. Many people used  
these SFX sounds as a "sonic background" for movies and radio shows. SFX  #006 was 
used on the movie "The Deer Hunter" as the room acoustics were so bad  in the 
church where the couple got married and the reception locations  that 
producers had to rerecord the dialog while using various SFX  recordings as the sonic 
background. The actors actually recorded their  dialog and watched the movie 
at the same so there voices matched the movements  of there mouths.
                                                                             
Jimmy Moore



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FYI - a process, known in the industry as "looping dialog".
johnb



JMoore6397@aol.com wrote:

>
>  sonic background. The actors actually recorded their dialog and 
> watched the movie at the same so there voices matched the movements of 
> there mouths.
>                                                                             
> Jimmy Moore
>
>
>
> .
>
>

Some of the looping done over the years has been so awful - but a few voice
actors were geniuses - Paul Frees being one. Unfortunately so much
compression is used, especially in earlier days, that it becomes a dead
giveaway that it's a loop...Unless you were Disney, and then you compressed
the crap out of everything.

                        Vance

 

FYI - a process, known in the industry as "looping dialog".
johnb

JMoore6397@aol. <mailto:JMoore6397%40aol.com> com wrote:
>
> sonic background. The actors actually recorded their dialog and 
> watched the movie at the same so there voices matched the movements of 
> there mouths.
> 
> Jimmy Moore
_

"In fact, they are in such high demand that the makers of the original  
Mellotrons, Streetly Music, began making them again in 2007 (although with some  
upgrades to ‘modernize’ them)."
 
Streetly Music - who are they?
 
Norm

And how many can we sign you up for, Mike?


Mike Dickson wrote:

>
> I might be misreading it, but the suggestion on the web site is that 
> it only runs under Vista.
>
> /*Not a good idea.*/
>
> Mike
>
> candor@free.fr wrote:
>
>> One more virtual Mellotron software :
>> _http://www.ikmultimedia.com/sampletron/ 
>> <http://www.ikmultimedia.com/sampletron/>_
>>
>> David
>>
>> ...........................................
>>
>> http://www.mellotron.fr <http://www.mellotron.fr>
>>
>> http://www.fairlightcmi.fr <http://www.fairlightcmi.fr>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Apr 24, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Mike Dickson wrote:

> I might be misreading it, but the suggestion on the web site is that  
> it only runs under Vista.

You are misreading it.

I think those demos they provide just have to be the biggest bunch of  
cheese I've heard in a long time. Truly delightful. I just wish I had  
some crackers to enjoy with them...

Rick

This is the forerunner to SampleTron:

http://www.sonicreality.com/viewDetails.php?ProductID=220&view=info

Some interesting comments by the creator from kvraudio:

To use your Squids Tron you should get SampleTank. I originally 
thought SampleTron would be able to read it but this seems to not be 
the case. The sounds have different IDs completely. So, even the 
sounds that came from Squids Tron inside SampleTron are actually 
reprogrammed differently and have different IDs that SampleTron can 
read (and ST) but not the other way around or it could get confusing. 

Here's what is different about the way they are programmed for 
SampleTron. A sort of "Best of Squids Tron" is within it but they are 
programmed where they are both looped and non-looped 8 seconds all in 
the same sound. You just turn a knob to get "sustain" (default 
otherwise is "purist 8 seconds- at least on Mellotron and Chamberlin 
sounds). I know we didn't include the non-looped Ampex and Chamberlin 
stuff though. The 8 seconds is done by a hold function instead. For 
the completely esoteric sound of the tape ending though your Squids 
Tron will occassionally offer a quirky noise or two that isn't in 
SampleTron. The extras like harmonium and toy piano are also not 
included in SampleTron (but you get plenty of NEW extras like 
Stylophone, VP330, 360 Systems etc.) 

Over half of SampleTron is completely new (and basically the same as 
Squids Tron Vol. 2). But it is important to note that Squids Tron 
Vol. 2 is not coming out in SampleTank format! SampleTron IS Squids 
Tron Vol. 2 (plus the best of Vol. 1) in SampleTank format. You will 
see that Squids Tron Vol. 2 in Reason format and whatever other 
formats we do will be the same price as your discounted upgrade from 
Squids Tron Vol. 1 to SampleTron is. So there is no reason to make 
two products (plus, trust me if you are a Squids Tron Vol. 1 user you 
will WANT the updated programming we did on the sounds we chose from 
it as they do more now... also some knobs to adjust noise amount and 
tape artifacts... not to mention an inspiring vintage interface).

I bought that sample tank Squids set, wasn't very impressed with it,
plus installing the sampletank player was a pain in the arse.

Yet to hear anything that's better than the tronsonics DAT tape I
bought in the late eighties, I wish I'd bought more of them.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Bernie <kornowicz@cox.net> wrote:
> This is the forerunner to SampleTron:
>
>  http://www.sonicreality.com/viewDetails.php?ProductID=220&view=info
>
>  Some interesting comments by the creator from kvraudio:
>
>  To use your Squids Tron you should get SampleTank. I originally
>  thought SampleTron would be able to read it but this seems to not be
>  the case. The sounds have different IDs completely. So, even the
>  sounds that came from Squids Tron inside SampleTron are actually
>  reprogrammed differently and have different IDs that SampleTron can
>  read (and ST) but not the other way around or it could get confusing.
>
>  Here's what is different about the way they are programmed for
>  SampleTron. A sort of "Best of Squids Tron" is within it but they are
>  programmed where they are both looped and non-looped 8 seconds all in
>  the same sound. You just turn a knob to get "sustain" (default
>  otherwise is "purist 8 seconds- at least on Mellotron and Chamberlin
>  sounds). I know we didn't include the non-looped Ampex and Chamberlin
>  stuff though. The 8 seconds is done by a hold function instead. For
>  the completely esoteric sound of the tape ending though your Squids
>  Tron will occassionally offer a quirky noise or two that isn't in
>  SampleTron. The extras like harmonium and toy piano are also not
>  included in SampleTron (but you get plenty of NEW extras like
>  Stylophone, VP330, 360 Systems etc.)
>
>  Over half of SampleTron is completely new (and basically the same as
>  Squids Tron Vol. 2). But it is important to note that Squids Tron
>  Vol. 2 is not coming out in SampleTank format! SampleTron IS Squids
>  Tron Vol. 2 (plus the best of Vol. 1) in SampleTank format. You will
>  see that Squids Tron Vol. 2 in Reason format and whatever other
>  formats we do will be the same price as your discounted upgrade from
>  Squids Tron Vol. 1 to SampleTron is. So there is no reason to make
>  two products (plus, trust me if you are a Squids Tron Vol. 1 user you
>  will WANT the updated programming we did on the sounds we chose from
>  it as they do more now... also some knobs to adjust noise amount and
>  tape artifacts... not to mention an inspiring vintage interface).
>
>
>
>
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Actually three: David Kean's samples, my samples, and the real thing!

 

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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:35 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: SampleTron

 

> Norman Fay wrote:
> 
> Yet to hear anything that's better than the tronsonics DAT tape I
> bought in the late eighties, 

Well I can think of one thing....

Mike___

What about shouting 'DAHHHHHH' down a cardboard tube?

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> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: djacques@csulb.edu
> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:51:58 -0700
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: SampleTron
> 
> 
> Actually three: David Kean’s samples, my samples, and the real thing!
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:35 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: SampleTron
> 
> 
> 
>> Norman Fay wrote:
>>
>> Yet to hear anything that's better than the tronsonics DAT tape I
>> bought in the late eighties,
> 
> Well I can think of one thing....
> 
> Mike___
> 
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Mark Wallis wrote:
> What about shouting 'DAHHHHHH' down a cardboard tube?
>

One of my favourites!!!

It sounds great, especially when recorded in a library or funeral home!!


What about shouting 'DAHHHHHH' down a cardboard tube?

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> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: djacques@csulb.edu
> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:51:58 -0700
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: SampleTron
>
>
> Actually three: David Kean\ufffds samples, my samples, and the real thing!
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:35 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: SampleTron
>
>
>
>> Norman Fay wrote:
>>
>> Yet to hear anything that's better than the tronsonics DAT tape I
>> bought in the late eighties,
>
> Well I can think of one thing....
>
> Mike___
>
>
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