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Matrix 6 patches on a Matrix 1000

Matrix 6 patches on a Matrix 1000

2013-01-28 by nodisco_vinyl

I have a Matrix 1000 and I use M1000X as an editor, with a Macbook and a usb/midi connection.
Once I had a Matrix-6, that had some beautiful patch (factory presets, I think) that I'd like to hear again.
Is there any way to load the Matrix-6 presets on the Matrix 1000?
I've seen some M6 midifile in the "Files" section but I don't know if I can use it with the M1000.

Thank you in advance (and excuse me if the question is stupid!)

Re: [oberheim] Matrix 6 patches on a Matrix 1000

2013-02-03 by Les Lambert

The first 200 patches in the Matrix 1000 can be over-written.
Matrix 6 patches are identical and sound exactly the same.
The easiest way is a sysex dump, and I use Cakewalk.
This isn't a free program, but can be found, as Roland bought the brand name and abandoned the old stuff as far as I can tell.
cakewalk 3 works fine, but there were lighter versions around that don't do sysex well enough for your purpose.
The best way was probably Galaxy for Mac (OS6 onwards I think) which did all that SoundDiver incorporated later. SoundDiver was PC and Mac, which was handy, and can import sysex and MIDI sequences with a bit of wriggling about.
SoundDiver is discontinued too.

An irritating feature of this patch transfer is that the 1000 not only doesn't understand the patch names, it deletes them, so it's impossible to tell which patch was which even if you transfer the patches out to a Matrix 6 later.
There are similar issues with The DX7 TX series synths from this era too, but at least they store the patch names so it's possible to quiz them later.
I spent many hours cursing, and finally bought SoundDiver which captures all the names in the original set of patches, and is easy to cut and paste into a text file or spreadsheet for later reference.
It's more work than I'd recommend.

What format are your nice patches in? 
Sysex? MIDI sequence?Cassette? Stone tablets? Smoke signals?
Maybe I could do something to preserve the names on my setup.

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      I have a Matrix 1000 and I use M1000X as an editor, with a Macbook and a usb/midi connection.

Once I had a Matrix-6, that had some beautiful patch (factory presets, I think) that I'd like to hear again.

Is there any way to load the Matrix-6 presets on the Matrix 1000?

I've seen some M6 midifile in the "Files" section but I don't know if I can use it with the M1000.



Thank you in advance (and excuse me if the question is stupid!)

Re: [oberheim] Matrix 6 patches on a Matrix 1000

2013-02-05 by Michael Diekmann

i'm quite sure the matrix 1000 has all the presets the matrix6 has (in those 800+200 presets)
-michael

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2013/1/28 nodisco_vinyl <nodisco_vinyl@...>
I have a Matrix 1000 and I use M1000X as an editor, with a Macbook and a usb/midi connection.
Once I had a Matrix-6, that had some beautiful patch (factory presets, I think) that I'd like to hear again.
Is there any way to load the Matrix-6 presets on the Matrix 1000?
I've seen some M6 midifile in the "Files" section but I don't know if I can use it with the M1000.

Thank you in advance (and excuse me if the question is stupid!)



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Re: [oberheim] Matrix 6 patches on a Matrix 1000

2013-02-06 by Les Lambert

I too believe the M1000 had all the good factory patches from the M6.
It is hard to tell as the names don't appear in the M1000.
There are published lists (with names) of the contents of both the new and old M1000, but I'm not sure exactly what is meant by that.
Black panel old, white panel new?
US made old Japan made new?

I still have both instruments, but haven't really spent time exploring that aspect, as at the time (1992?) there were other exciting aspects to pursue.
I used Unisyn to generate new patches based on my favourites and then auditioned them and renamed them and made themed banks of my own.
Time Passes, paperwork is produced, bills arise etc etc.
Instruments deserve to be played.
So I just plugged them back into the tape machine and had a poke about.

800 patches is usually 790 too many for any song I ever worked on.
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--- On Tue, 5/2/13, Michael Diekmann wrote:

From: Michael Diekmann
Subject: Re: [oberheim] Matrix 6 patches on a Matrix 1000
To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 February, 2013, 20:30

i'm quite sure the matrix 1000 has all the presets the matrix6 has (in those 800+200 presets)
-michael






Re: Matrix 6 patches on a Matrix 1000

2013-02-06 by nodisco_vinyl

Thanks for your answer.
The nice patches I'm looking for are not in any format, I don't have any of them (and don't remember the names): they were inside my old Matrix 6.
I have downloaded, anyway, some .MID with Matrix 6 patches, that I will try to upload to my Matrix 1000 in the next days, and see if those sounds are there.

--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, Les Lambert  wrote:
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> The first 200 patches in the Matrix 1000 can be over-written.
> Matrix 6 patches are identical and sound exactly the same.
> The easiest way is a sysex dump, and I use Cakewalk.
> This isn't a free program, but can be found, as Roland bought the brand name and abandoned the old stuff as far as I can tell.
> cakewalk 3 works fine, but there were lighter versions around that don't do sysex well enough for your purpose.
> The best way was probably Galaxy for Mac (OS6 onwards I think) which did all that SoundDiver incorporated later. SoundDiver was PC and Mac, which was handy, and can import sysex and MIDI sequences with a bit of wriggling about.
> SoundDiver is discontinued too.
> 
> An irritating feature of this patch transfer is that the 1000 not only doesn't understand the patch names, it deletes them, so it's impossible to tell which patch was which even if you transfer the patches out to a Matrix 6 later.
> There are similar issues with The DX7 TX series synths from this era too, but at least they store the patch names so it's possible to quiz them later.
> I spent many hours cursing, and finally bought SoundDiver which captures all the names in the original set of patches, and is easy to cut and paste into a text file or spreadsheet for later reference.
> It's more work than I'd recommend.
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> What format are your nice patches in? 
> Sysex? MIDI sequence?Cassette? Stone tablets? Smoke signals?
> Maybe I could do something to preserve the names on my setup.
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> Once I had a Matrix-6, that had some beautiful patch (factory presets, I think) that I'd like to hear again.
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